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JumpCrisscross · 5 months ago
"Just then they came in sight of thirty or forty windmills that rise from that plain. And no sooner did Don Quixote see them that he said to his squire, 'Fortune is guiding our affairs better than we ourselves could have wished. Do you see over yonder, friend Sancho, thirty or forty hulking giants? I intend to do battle with them and slay them. With their spoils we shall begin to be rich for this is a righteous war and the removal of so foul a brood from off the face of the earth is a service God will bless.

'What giants?' asked Sancho Panza.

'Those you see over there,' replied his master, 'with their long arms. Some of them have arms well nigh two leagues in length.'

'Take care, sir,' cried Sancho. 'Those over there are not giants but windmills. Those things that seem to be their arms are sails which, when they are whirled around by the wind, turn the millstone.'"

add-sub-mul-div · 5 months ago
Context:

> President Donald Trump has made sweeping strides to prioritize fossil fuels and hinder renewable energy projects. Trump recently called wind and solar power “THE SCAM OF THE CENTURY!” in a social media post and vowed not to approve wind or “farmer destroying Solar” projects. “The days of stupidity are over in the USA!!!” he wrote on his Truth Social site this week.

jacquesm · 5 months ago
It's the 2nd installment of the years of stupidity so technically that is a little bit right. That 'scam of the century' is powering a good chunk of the USA grid but never mind the details.
nielsbot · 5 months ago
Trump would have to have human empathy to look into the details. He doesn't have any.
dzhiurgis · 5 months ago
Wasn’t the actual change that they won’t give out subsidies for solar farms on of best farmlands (which wasn’t happening anyway)?
sandworm101 · 5 months ago
A youtube channel i follow made an interesting point. All these wind farms are covered by the jones act. So the associated ships to biuld them must be american (biult, crewed and flagged). It was hoped that this would revitalize US shipyards. But ship construction is so risk-adverse that no matter what a court says, everything is going to be put on hold for at least a few years.

https://youtu.be/9ISZuW1JKkI

waltbosz · 5 months ago
The NIMBY argument is often one of aesthetics: windmills on the horizon will look ugly.

I want to see a barge with one of these windmills anchored off the coast at the proposed install spot. So people can actually see what one would look like in real life.

I know it's not representative of the array of windmills the projects seek to install, but it something.

Also, I wonder if the same people who object to the windmills ever raise objections to the boats with giant LED advertisement screens that creep past the beach close enough to shore that you can smell their engine exhaust.

softwaredoug · 5 months ago
There are a lot of objectively ugly things people once objected to that now just exist as part of the landscape. Like normal transmission lines or telephone polls. Or many roads. Or cell towers. Or transmission towers. The list goes on.
nar001 · 5 months ago
The issue is, people will complain even seeing the barge. But when they're installed, they basically forget about it, and get used to it. So it's just a pain either way
wlonkly · 5 months ago
I have a hard time relating to this because whenever I come around a curve in a highway or whatever only to see a wind farm I am always mildly awed.
softwaredoug · 5 months ago
Shadow docket here we come.
2OEH8eoCRo0 · 5 months ago
My father hates this thing because the electricity it provides is above market rate.
free_bip · 5 months ago
Given that electricity demand is projected to continue climbing for some time, I don't think that's such an issue. It probably won't be above market rate for long.
stinkbeetle · 5 months ago
Are electricity prices projected to rise? Even with all the much cheaper renewables coming on line in future?
ZeroGravitas · 5 months ago
In China offshore wind is cheaper than coal.

The stop-start nature of US efforts, which isn't limited to this particular illegal stop work order, don't help with costs.

lucb1e · 5 months ago
That's easy to say if you don't have to live with the consequences of cheap oil product burning, nor apparently have an idea of the current health impacts (people walking by a car don't fall over but, in aggregate, the lost number of healthy years due to this pollution is pretty upsetting)
hamandcheese · 5 months ago
That seems like a great problem for the market to sort out.
noncoml · 5 months ago
SC is gonna shut it down. Anyone taking bets?
JumpCrisscross · 5 months ago
> Anyone taking bets?

Polymarket is, at least for tariffs [1].

[1] https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-supreme-court-rule-in-...

Tadpole9181 · 5 months ago
I can't stand people posting this website on HN. Polymarket is a bunch of gambling addicts just throwing money at a wall - there's no market research or actual backing insight. It has such intellectual rhetoric as:

> if you look closely, you can see DUMFUQ Sucks-His-Balls BUYING HIGH, then SELLING LOW! Dumfuq SUCKS-HIS-BALLS must have confused this for a Ceasefire market to trade like shit!

abduhl · 5 months ago
So is everyone else invested in the stock market.
djohnston · 5 months ago
That sort of instability is so damaging beyond the boundaries of his term. Hopefully this restores a bit of confidence.
ascendantlogic · 5 months ago
The Supreme Court is determined to give him unfettered power to do whatever he wants so I'm sure once it reaches them they'll strike down whatever the lower court does to stop him.
bpodgursky · 5 months ago
Eh. They have broadly ruled with the admin on staffing decisions.

I would not at all extrapolate that to unlimited regulation of economic activity; it would be something of a reversal of their known stances on regulatory authority of federal agencies. I'm not making bets either way.

adrr · 5 months ago
Amazing how Trump gets unfettered power and Biden gets reeled in. Almost prevented Biden from rolling back a Trump EA when Biden was in power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden_v._Texas

LeoPanthera · 5 months ago
It will take a generation for the reputation of the USA to be restored, even if we start right now.
rootusrootus · 5 months ago
You’re an optimist. I think we have lost a great deal of soft power that can never be regained. Because even if the next guy is normal, the citizens that decided this is what they wanted will continue to exist for decades after Trump is gone. There’s no reason for non-Americans to assume this is some kind of one-off anomaly and not a sea change in the culture of the US.