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snypher · a day ago
If we can get dinner from mom, who needs a grocery store?

Seems like the same logic to me. Isn't the Web where the information came from?

svachalek · a day ago
Mom needs something very like a grocery store to get food from. LLM training does not need HTTP, HTTPS, HTML, CSS, JavaScript, hyperlinks, banner ads, cookies, and so on. Yes the web was a convenient source to find a lot of text but it's not the only source.
pornel · a day ago
For as long as mom was feeding me, I never needed to shop at a grocery store.

But here the mom is a robot taking produce for free. Not a good business for grocery stores.

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jibal · a day ago
It's obviously not even close to the same logic. One obvious difference is that "mom" (who gets their dinner from "mom"? Not me) pays the grocery store for the food. If I get all my meals via DoorDash, the farmers still get paid. If I get all my news via LLMs rather than a subscription to the NYT, the NYT and its investigative reporters get no revenue from me.
sesm · a day ago
When I'm asking about a niche topic, LLM with web search enabled is infinitely better than without.
gordonhart · a day ago
Browsing "the web" has been painful for years thanks to SEO and ads. Most people already spend their time in walled gardens, selectively jumping out to specific linked sites. Does AI fundamentally change this, or is it just a better front-end for the search engine?
0_____0 · a day ago
What makes you think ads and the equivalent to SEO aren't coming for the LLM products? These companies are going to have to turn a profit eventually...
sixtyj · 17 hours ago
It is just a question of time when we would need AdBlock for LLM…
recursive · a day ago
I guess people that need to verify the correctness of their information still need the web.
drjasonharrison · a day ago
We still have books, and libraries. And some libraries have books.

Sadly, most of the stuff most people want to verify is "breaking news" and "gossip".

Did the pope really wear a puffy white coat? Does it really matter?

recursive · a day ago
That's your answer? We don't need the internet anymore because we have books?

My local library is great. But they don't have all books, like reference information about a particular manufacturer's product. And they're not open at 2am. And you have to go there.

Behold, this is the future. We've improved computers so much going to the library is the answer for getting information. Correction: getting correct information.

cwmoore · a day ago
Is wrong right anymore?
Jenk · a day ago
SEO already killed the www.
kyriakos · 14 hours ago
Is it the web that SEO killed or search engines?
cwmoore · a day ago
Only out-deceited, not outcompeted.
jibal · a day ago
The OP is claiming that no one is interested in his article, just the "information" that can be harvested in it. He has committed the rather obvious fallacy of equating the web with web search. There are real risks to information providers, but that's not all the web is.
belZaah · 17 hours ago
Precisely. Thus people will stop going there. Which leads to people not creating content there. Which kinda stops the very model genAI has used to grow.
OptionOfT · a day ago
Because soon the information you get with GenAI will contain ads in a way that you cannot distinguish it from real information.

You want the ability to look at 4-5 sources, vet them, and draw your own conclusions.

solardev · a day ago
Well, on the web, you get 4-5 sources, all of which are ads, three of which are owned by the same company and the other two are generated SEO spam.
trod1234 · a day ago
Imagine AI telling you its safe and proper to water bath can meat for food preservation, and what that actually means when you eat the canned meat following those directions. Same goes for mushrooms, or anything else that might literally kill you.

We've reached a point where AI is not accountable for harms, while being capable of killing people through selective curation of information it provides.