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ungreased0675 · 19 days ago
>Environmental groups have lodged complaints with the EU, citing concerns that the project will impact migratory birds

Seems like environmental groups oppose absolutely any infrastructure construction. It really dilutes actual concerns, because they get categorized into the “usual complaints” bucket.

pxmpxm · 19 days ago
> dilutes actual concerns

Lots of hammer+sickle and palestinian flags in the protests; everyone needs a hobby?

FirmwareBurner · 18 days ago
>everyone needs a hobby?

They would need a job first. Where do these unemployed people have the money for all this action?

I still don't get why we don't investigate who is funding these groups.

Tinfoil-hat version of me believes at the core of all these protests groups and NGOs that negatively affect EU development and seek to economically, socially and politically destabilize it, lies funding from Russia, China and maybe US(AID) since they're the most likely to profit from this.

lormayna · 18 days ago
Palestine flags just replaced Che Guevara t-shirts in the pantheon of far left myths
seper8 · 19 days ago
15.5 billion? Who would spend 25 billion on a bridge? Wow, amazing how they think a 35 billion bridge to Sicily would be worth it.
maremmano · 19 days ago
don't worry it will be 45 billion but we won't build it anyway. But you know, between expropriations, bribes, friends of friends, projects, etc. some money will have to be spent.
harvey9 · 18 days ago
UK has already spent 1.2 billion GBP on a bridge over the Thames estuary and construction hasn't even started yet.
brcmthrowaway · 19 days ago
Why wouldnt you build a tunnel, just like Sydney harbour tunnel or transbay tunnel?
jessekv · 18 days ago
B1M covered this. The video has a fun animation of the political history too:

https://www.theb1m.com/video/italys-12bn-bridge-mystery

dzhiurgis · 18 days ago
Loved that one. We need something like this for NZ's south and north islands and so far ships are by far the best option.

Maybe some semi submersible, low-safety tube for cargo could make sense tho, but I'm not holding my breath.

New government cancelled $1.45b ferry replacement project for cost blowout and everyone expects it to cost even more.

matttsssss · 18 days ago
It might be too short for a tunnel, the dive on the island side would be too steep for trains.

But that’s just an engineering challenge so relocating and reclaiming some land so it fits would be a better idea.

lormayna · 18 days ago
Seabed is deep and problematic to build a tunnel.
zoklet-enjoyer · 19 days ago
I saw a video about how crazy of an engineering challenge this will be. I guess the pricetag is evidence of that. I hope it pays off for them.
davidelettieri · 19 days ago
It won't pay off. It is a gift to mafia.
lormayna · 18 days ago
WeBuilt, the general contractor, is one of the biggest building companies in the world. They even built a part of Panama Channel expansion. Why do you think that they are mafiosi? Personally I don't know if this bridge would be useful or not, but I think that refuse to building it just because mafia risk it's a stupid reason. Italy has a strong law and control system to prevent that and I remembered exactly the same argument about Bologna-Firenze high speed train tunnel and highways that after almost 20 years are successful infrastructures.
Ekaros · 18 days ago
Never thought about it, but Sicily is actually surprisingly close to Italy. There is probably worse ways to use money around.
polski-g · 18 days ago
Why are they spending 16bn dollars on transit infrastructure for a population that won't exist in 2 generations?

Italy has one of the lowest TFRs in Europe. They should be spending infinites amount of money fixing that instead of bridges to graveyards.

fl7305 · 18 days ago
CFR is usually higher than TFR
heraldgeezer · 18 days ago
Hope it includes rail/train like Öresund-bridge.

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