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ecb_penguin · 2 months ago
I didn't realize how poorly YC startups were managed until I joined one.

It's mostly a ponzi scheme, where unprofitable companies pass their books off to non-technical investors that love hype.

> 1 slide. 1 minute pitches. 1 speaker.

This is why YC has such poor results. They're more interested in "1 slide" vs actual financials.

> Vertical AI was all over the place. Cursor for X was also prevalent.

No thought leadership at all.

HPMOR · 2 months ago
YC is very similar to a university. There is a small group of companies that create the reputation on which everybody lives. The results are extremely exponentially distributed. So yes, it makes sense you joining some arbitrary YC startup was a bad experience. The average performance of a YC company is __phenomenal__, the median performance is poor.
ecb_penguin · 2 months ago
> YC is very similar to a university

No it's not. It's not even remotely comparable.

> There is a small group of companies that create the reputation on which everybody lives

Also called luck. YC investors cannot articulate what made them successful, or else they'd have better results.

Universities have decades of sustained output. They are not comparable.

> you joining some arbitrary YC startup was a bad experience

I am at a YC unicorn. We are one of YC's most successful startups.

> The average performance of a YC company is __phenomenal__

It absolutely is not. It doesn't even beat the SP500. The __vast__ majority of YC companies are unprofitable failures.

You could flip a coin and beat YC.

TZubiri · 2 months ago
>This is why YC has such poor results. They're more interested in "1 slide" vs actual financials.

Maybe I'm wrong but YC mostly starts investing in pre-seed stage, where companies don't have financials.

ecb_penguin · 2 months ago
> where companies don't have financials

Seems like a pretty good reason to have more information than 1 slide...

mkagenius · 2 months ago
Why is this top post on hn within one minute of posting?
sillyfluke · 2 months ago
I'm guessing the speed with which it received its initial few votes.

It's a threadbare article with little or no meat on the bone. So it is a little strange.

ge96 · 2 months ago
Carl Weathers
mkagenius · 2 months ago
It had literally two votes. Anyway looks like I shouldn't have brought this issue up, getting downvoted
Brajeshwar · 2 months ago
I don’t know how or why, but I have seen this happen many times. Many of my submissions appear at the front within minutes of receiving 2-3 votes. I have no affiliation with YC, nor are my submissions.
mkagenius · 2 months ago
Bruh, the amount of posts you are doing!
TZubiri · 2 months ago
Maybe karma affects post visibility?
mkagenius · 2 months ago
No, then he would keep posting whatever every day
soared · 2 months ago
https://billchambers.me/about/

This page on mobile made me laugh.

But otherwise, makes sense - get rid off all the flash and this is what demo days/etc are about

pyb · 2 months ago
"2 on 20" Am I understanding correctly? If every YC startup is shooting for a 20 million USD valuation, that's amazing. Even if not all will make it.
HPMOR · 2 months ago
Nobody ever pays too much or too little for a startup. Because either you __really__ make it, or you don't. It is statistically more likely for your YC startup to be worth more than $1 billion, than it is to be acquired in a cash deal for $80mm. It is because of this fact that $2/22mm is not unreasonable. However, most of the hot companies during the batch will fetch $3-4mm/30-40mm valuation. The average raise during demo day is close to ~$3mm, the median <$800k.
chickenzzzzu · 2 months ago
Sounds more like a cattle auction than a place where partnerships are formed to deliver meaningful value to consumers.
echelon · 2 months ago
This is market efficiency. That's the very definition of delivering meaningful value.

The more efficient the capital allocation is, the greater the benefit to the whole market.

The only weirdness is that these are companies led by founders with "personalities". That's a weird variable to correct for.

chickenzzzzu · 2 months ago
How much more efficient is it to allocate capital to a group individuals who have been educated at institutions that produce an increasingly rigid type of thinker, who are all making the same hype driven products?
orsorna · 2 months ago
If you aren't already connected beforehand these rituals are a waste of time.
chickenzzzzu · 2 months ago
Painfully true!