This article reads like something Vice published in 2012. Quite honestly, I only made it 1/3 through. We’ve all been to those glass case dispensaries by now. The world of weed isn’t that new and exciting anymore, c’mon guys…
They seemed to discuss reducing as much of the plant as possible to make something less variable, but smoking has gotten so many improvements what about edibles?
Just make a THC capsule that works whenever I take it, cumulatively if possible.
Not lousy gummies that I can only take once in a 24 hour cycle as my tolerance skyrockets. Followed by a hangover effect caused by as little as 10 mg.
Those current gummies, if my dosage isn’t enough and I take more later (low and slow), the second dose never quite catches up to the first one. It’s just one big non euphoric haze.
I’ve tried sublingual RSO, tinctures, and edibles. The current world of non smokable weed needs a lot of fundamental changes. It’s almost like edibles are stuck in the 70’s era of pot brownies but they reduced it down to a gummy.
Nothing will get rid of the hangover (unless you count being high all the time). Why not dabs? There are also suppositories. Eating it implies the digestion process which makes it massively variable (fat solubility, how recently you ate, how good your liver is etc...). I would think sublinguals would be decent but I've never tried (and probably won't...quit cannabis for other reasons years ago. I was a very heavy user, 3-5 grams of concentrate dabbed a week).
Because of years of dabbing in my early 20’s (a lot of reckless high temp ones especially) my lungs are hyper sensitive to any sort of inhaling and I’ve been told by pulmonologists that I have asthmatic symptoms.
I get chest pains from car exhaust,cig smoke, high fume cooking, cleaning products etc. so yeah…that’s why I seem so adamant on edibles.
I only did sublingual rso which didn’t feel very euphoric. It does seem promising to people with Parkinson’s or anyone who wants medicinal benefits with minimal impairment.
Unless I’ve mistaken what you suggested, It needs either a carrier oil or ethanol to be psychoactive, at least how things stand now. And if what you suggested is like anything that I’ve tried, it’s the same problem. They just aren’t as reliable or consistent as other oral drugs.
There needs to be research done so we can do away with smoking. People who take opioids don’t need a pipe, why do we?
California/Colorado/Canada sometimes forget that they were blazing the trail (pun intended). Here in Germany it's only been legal since last year, and the novelty of hasn't worn off.
The bit about pure THC rings true. My guy here in Britain sells live resin but occasionally when he's out of that, I'll buy one of his homebrew dab carts.
He says they are 0.4ml live resin, 0.5ml THC distillate and 0.1ml terpenes. They weigh so much heavier on my brain, and have little euphoria, compared to live resin or regular old nugs.
Insects and Microorganisms are indeed wanted from my perspective - I grow in living soil and cherish any form of live. There are studies about certain fungi in the soil which lead to peach aroma and flowery terpenes. This plant is plenty of tastes: gasy and fruity, herbful. When you get a Banana Punch it feels like a fruit ensemble and the sweetest fruits just like grapes do need terroir
Maybe it's only me, but "cannabis scientists" seems another one of these nonsense words that content creators make up to make their product sound smart. It slowly diffuses into mainstream journalism, and I'm really sorry for the NYTimes if their readers don't know what a chemist or biologist is.
Call me Don Quixote, but I think it's a slippery slope.
NYTimes sent a journalist to Denver, who bought a chocolate bar at a dispensary, went back to their hotel room and ate it. Then, started seeing kaleidoscopes and curled up into the fetal position until it all wore off. No long term harm of course, but one freaked out New Yorker.
Turned out, the chocolate bar was 8 doses! and the journalist had NEVER used any cannabis in their life prior to ingesting.
This is one reason I'm not an advocate of edibles, or extracted products in general.
So, that's the context of this article. NYT and NY in general are fighting cannabis all the way. The east coast of the US really is 50 years behind, and not just regarding cannabis.
I also agree with your criticism of the news hype of "cannabis scientists".
As I say in my article comment, just smoke the plant, stop trying to turn it into jet fuel...
The comparison to tuning a symphony vs isolating a single instrument really stuck with me. Trying to turn such a complex, variable plant into a mass-market, repeatable product seems like an uphill battle
> to make cannabis as popular as booze requires solving that original problem: It’s hard to imagine millions of people becoming new recreational users without being able to promise them that the product they’re spending money on ... will give them the effect they want.
> it remains to be seen whether that’s even possible with a plant as complex as cannabis
Cannabis doesn't work like this. It has been tried and the end result was Sativex. It doesn't work as well as actual cannabis. It's like trying to replace coffee with caffeine. There's something like ~1000 compounds in coffee. The effects are not the same.
There's an entourage effect going on in cannabis that's extremely hard to replicate. Even buds on different parts of the same plant will have different profiles.
Also the sativa vs indica classification is almost completely meaningless nonsense these days. Does it have high THCV? Then maybe it's what was once called sativa. Was it an indica harvested before there were any amber trichomes? Maybe it has 'sativa' effects etc.
Isn't it also the same with alcohol, at least the beverage that people drink? Wine especially is very susceptible to conditions; soil, weather, strain, location, barrels, harvest time, aging conditions/temperature, etc.
Sure, the alcohol chemical is the same everywhere, but so is THC/CBD when you want to reduce it like that. Watered down ethanol is probably a thing but few people drink it like that.
A lot of the flower at stores are not very good now. There has been a proliferation of flavored strains that just taste weird and bad. Lilac Diesel anyone?
On the other hand, the tried and true traditional strains have and always been excellent. But they are scarce due to demand, so at least half of what you see is filler crap. And you can't even smell it and certainly not try it like a shop in Amsterdam.
Sativa vs indica is meaningless but if one wants to sleep THC+CBN is the way to go. And usually these products are labeled as "indica" on the packaging. Sometimes melatonin is added as well. I shy away from that but it also works quite well.
Amber trichomes indicate the THC degrading into CBN.
If you harvest when the trichomes are milky or clear but not amber you'll have higher THC vs CBN.
But this earlier harvest comes at the expense of yield as you sacrifice time that would be spent with the buds increasing in size as they become ever more sexually frustrated.
Since we managed to make coffee predictable and enjoyable, is the same not possible with cannabis? (Using horticultural practices as with coffee rather than trying to synthesize anything in a lab/factory.)
All of the extracts, derivatives, and edibles ARE the problem. Stop concentrating the "active ingredients", and use a minimally selected variety of the plant.
As usual, all the effort going into making a shit ton of money for some rich asshole are f_cking up the original item for everyone else.
NOTE: maybe you're also familiar with a similar course of events on this thing called "the internet"?
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They seemed to discuss reducing as much of the plant as possible to make something less variable, but smoking has gotten so many improvements what about edibles?
Just make a THC capsule that works whenever I take it, cumulatively if possible.
Not lousy gummies that I can only take once in a 24 hour cycle as my tolerance skyrockets. Followed by a hangover effect caused by as little as 10 mg.
Those current gummies, if my dosage isn’t enough and I take more later (low and slow), the second dose never quite catches up to the first one. It’s just one big non euphoric haze.
I’ve tried sublingual RSO, tinctures, and edibles. The current world of non smokable weed needs a lot of fundamental changes. It’s almost like edibles are stuck in the 70’s era of pot brownies but they reduced it down to a gummy.
I get chest pains from car exhaust,cig smoke, high fume cooking, cleaning products etc. so yeah…that’s why I seem so adamant on edibles.
I only did sublingual rso which didn’t feel very euphoric. It does seem promising to people with Parkinson’s or anyone who wants medicinal benefits with minimal impairment.
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There needs to be research done so we can do away with smoking. People who take opioids don’t need a pipe, why do we?
No. I don't even know what this means.
> The world of weed isn’t that new and exciting anymore, c’mon guys…
I think it is. In my country it's illegal.
He says they are 0.4ml live resin, 0.5ml THC distillate and 0.1ml terpenes. They weigh so much heavier on my brain, and have little euphoria, compared to live resin or regular old nugs.
Growers aren't really worried about them. They worried about the deadly HLVd virus. https://ceainsight.com/research-hop-latent-viroid-cannabis/
Weather is irrelevant, it's all in hightech greenhouses, with strong LED lighting, automatic watering, climate control, no insects.
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NYTimes sent a journalist to Denver, who bought a chocolate bar at a dispensary, went back to their hotel room and ate it. Then, started seeing kaleidoscopes and curled up into the fetal position until it all wore off. No long term harm of course, but one freaked out New Yorker.
Turned out, the chocolate bar was 8 doses! and the journalist had NEVER used any cannabis in their life prior to ingesting.
This is one reason I'm not an advocate of edibles, or extracted products in general.
So, that's the context of this article. NYT and NY in general are fighting cannabis all the way. The east coast of the US really is 50 years behind, and not just regarding cannabis.
I also agree with your criticism of the news hype of "cannabis scientists".
As I say in my article comment, just smoke the plant, stop trying to turn it into jet fuel...
That was none other than Maureen Dowd, famous as a warmonger and booster of Trump's foreign policy in his first term: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/opinion/dowd-dont-harsh-o...
Not surprised that reading and decision making aren't her strong skills.
I remember when toilet engineers were called plumbers!
> it remains to be seen whether that’s even possible with a plant as complex as cannabis
Cannabis doesn't work like this. It has been tried and the end result was Sativex. It doesn't work as well as actual cannabis. It's like trying to replace coffee with caffeine. There's something like ~1000 compounds in coffee. The effects are not the same.
There's an entourage effect going on in cannabis that's extremely hard to replicate. Even buds on different parts of the same plant will have different profiles.
Also the sativa vs indica classification is almost completely meaningless nonsense these days. Does it have high THCV? Then maybe it's what was once called sativa. Was it an indica harvested before there were any amber trichomes? Maybe it has 'sativa' effects etc.
Sure, the alcohol chemical is the same everywhere, but so is THC/CBD when you want to reduce it like that. Watered down ethanol is probably a thing but few people drink it like that.
Given how many people drink artificially caffeinated beverages this feels like a poor example
On the other hand, the tried and true traditional strains have and always been excellent. But they are scarce due to demand, so at least half of what you see is filler crap. And you can't even smell it and certainly not try it like a shop in Amsterdam.
Amber trichomes indicate the THC degrading into CBN.
If you harvest when the trichomes are milky or clear but not amber you'll have higher THC vs CBN.
But this earlier harvest comes at the expense of yield as you sacrifice time that would be spent with the buds increasing in size as they become ever more sexually frustrated.
Black market cannabis tends to optimise for this.
Grow a plant, Smoke it, Enjoy...
All of the extracts, derivatives, and edibles ARE the problem. Stop concentrating the "active ingredients", and use a minimally selected variety of the plant.
As usual, all the effort going into making a shit ton of money for some rich asshole are f_cking up the original item for everyone else.
NOTE: maybe you're also familiar with a similar course of events on this thing called "the internet"?