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Cockbrand · 6 months ago
Back in the day, there was a Yamaha burner with a feature called "DiscT@2". It could burn images and text onto the unused area of a CD-ROM. I just had to get it and did so, and I had a bit of fun with it.
xattt · 6 months ago
It seemed especially badass when the model number was the CRW-F1, released in 2002.

It was also cool because the activity would blink purple (orange + blue) during writing. This set it apart when blue LEDs were all the rage.

jonah-archive · 6 months ago
I still have mine (in a firewire enclosure)! Last tested the DiscT@2 feature about four years ago, at the time qpxtool had a utility for burning the imagery under Linux.
bayindirh · 6 months ago
I still have that particular Yamaha burner (CRW-F1). Besides DiscT@2, which I used to burn all types of useful information, it had really good burn quality. Given I used a good brand, none of the discs had rotted or lost data even after a decade.
xattt · 6 months ago
Disc rot/substrate oxidation would be a media issue instead of the writer.
m-s-y · 6 months ago
Same. I had one of these in ‘98/‘99. The disc didn’t even go into a standard tray—-you had to use a caddy that completely enveloped the disc.
4rt · 6 months ago
any idea what the caddy did?

some sort of feedback for rotation angle maybe?

Molitor5901 · 6 months ago
I fondly remember LightScribe, that was a pretty awesome technology.
gambiting · 6 months ago
I was going to say, I still have a 5 pack of Lightscribe DVDs unopened in a box specifically to save something "special" but obviously nothing has ever been special enough to warrant using them. And now that they aren't made anymore it would feel downright sacrilegious to use them, not to mention 4.7GB of capacity is just not enough for anything nowadays really.
yaky · 6 months ago
4.7GB is quite enough for a standalone Linux DVD (for devices that still have DVD drives). Plus some cool art.

Might be a good idea to preserve a known-working distro for some old PC, especially for discontinued or less-used architectures. Just saw a discussion the other day about finding 32-bit Debian for an old laptop.

Molitor5901 · 6 months ago
Yeah! I have had that exact same feeling! The one I remember burning the most was a collection of photos and movies of my family. I printed across the disc a photo of everyone. It was just so cool, even in black and white, but I always held back because they were a little expensive, and I wanted to save them for something really special! Had they been the same price as other discs.. I think I would have used them more.
layer8 · 6 months ago
Someone would probably buy them on eBay for a good price.
tomjuggler · 6 months ago
Still have a few of those knocking around. USB is just not the same
ungawatkt · 6 months ago
I gave this a go about 3 years ago when the hackday project[1] first got published, it turns out choosing the parameters is _very_ disc dependent, since every disc is a little bit different (possibly even between lots of the same type, not published anywhere, and quite sensitive. I got it working for the CD-R's I got, but it took ~50 experiments to get ok parameters (the image was pretty good, but still wobbly in some areas of the disc).

That said, the end result is pretty cool, if hard to photograph.

[1] https://hackaday.io/project/186303-burning-pictures-on-a-com...

axoltl · 6 months ago
It’s a slightly more involved project, but tmbinc managed to write arbitrary pictures to a DVD surface:

https://debugmo.de/2022/05/fjita-the-project-that-wasnt-mean...

extraduder_ire · 6 months ago
Cool idea. Like a more accessible version of lightscribe. (if you use a dual-sided disc)

I assume this isn't possible with a DVD/bluray due to the much much smaller pits.

whycome · 6 months ago
> I assume this isn't possible with a DVD/bluray due to the much much smaller pits.

Or, you know, higher resolution images.

HPsquared · 6 months ago
I suppose these shapes could be made incredibly detailed. There must be some kind of application for that.
isoprophlex · 6 months ago
Its basically a bespoke diffraction grating printer, indeed. So, you could probably print holographic images?
_def · 6 months ago
This github issue mentions a paper about holographic images on a DVD: https://github.com/arduinocelentano/cdimage/issues/14

But I can't actually imagine what it would look like. Sounds amazing though!

eahm · 6 months ago
30+ years of computer and I had no idea you could do this. These are the kind of things I get excited about!
londons_explore · 6 months ago
Congrats to the author - a few decades ago I attempted the same, with very little success (using data tracks, not audio, which might have been my mistake).

The challenge (as I saw it) was that the drive has the option to toggle the state of the laser every sector, effectively letting it invert all your data if it wants to. To have control of the laser state, you need to be able to do perfect predictions if the drive will toggle or not.

Any unpredicted bit leads to the laser state toggling and the image being ruined.

lucianbr · 6 months ago
Assuming control of the decision to toggle, could that be used to draw something even while burning useful data? Of course you would have very low precision, but still. Maybe an outline or something.
londons_explore · 6 months ago
Yes. You get the option to toggle the laser every 33 bytes, which is a lot of controllable toggles to make cool patterns.