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Posted by u/xenodium 4 months ago
Show HN: Journelly for iOS: like tweeting but for your eyes only (in plain text)xenodium.com/journelly-li...
On iOS, I've flip-flopped back and forth between a bunch of note-taking and journaling apps. None would stick.

My initial attempts at building such an app faded just the same, until I realized I wanted the same level of low-friction posting and browsing offered by social media apps, but for my quick notes. Not social, just easy posting, search, and a familiar feed.

This is how Journelly came to be. I like to describe it as: tweeting, but for your eyes only (fully offline and in plain text).

If you’re an Org markup user, you’ll be delighted to know it’s powered by unicorns under the hood.

If you’re a Markdown fan, please get in touch! I’m recording interest for journelly + markdown at xenodium.com. The more requests I get, the sooner I’ll get Markdown support out the door.

Hope you like the app!

Arubis · 4 months ago
@xenodium is almost single-handedly creating the possibility of org-mode being as cross-app usable as markdown, and I _heartily_ appreciate it.
flessner · 4 months ago
On iOS there's also Beorg [1], which I used briefly.

The problem that org-mode and Markdown face is that they are fairly minimal. It's common to use plugins, that aren't supported everywhere. This kills portability, which is a core "selling point".

I have seen it happen it Obsidian and Logseq - but even GitHub has a slightly altered Markdown spec.

[1] https://www.beorgapp.com

xenodium · 4 months ago
I know what you mean, though at least today, this isn't as much of an issue for Org.

Org markup is fairly rich. Journelly is my 4th Org app on iOS. Neither has required additional syntax/plugin to cover my use-cases.

I would say maybe it's the opposite for Org. My apps implement a subset of Org features and, because its plain text, the user experience degrades fairly gracefully.

edit: This doc still blows my mind https://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html

xenodium · 4 months ago
Nice you hear it. Thank you!
kleinishere · 4 months ago
Nice to see this on HN from the app creator. Intrigued to try it (vs BeOrg) after seeing coverage at irreal, one of my usual emacs oriented blogs.

https://irreal.org/blog/?p=12894

xenodium · 4 months ago
> Nice to see this on HN from the app creator

Glad to hear!

> Intrigued to try it (vs BeOrg)

Both apps speak org on iOS. It just so happens the apps offer different targeted experiences. While Beorg is perhaps more geared toward task lists and calendars, Journelly focuses on short and quick notes.

I use it a lot for saving links for all sort of things like movies, music, videos, restaurants. You can share from letterboxd, shazam, youtube, google maps, etc. into Journelly. You get link previews in the app and in the case of youtube, play from app.

freeone3000 · 4 months ago
$20? Just once? This is the best pricing scheme I’ve been for an app this year!
xenodium · 4 months ago
Not sure what country you're visiting from, but it's USD $14.99. One time only.

edit: typo

barnabee · 4 months ago
Thank you for not going down the subscription route!

I'm much more willing to buy a $15 app if it feels like it has legs even if I may give up with it after a month or two than to possibly lock myself into a much smaller amount forever.

The amount I'm willing to pay on the app store only goes up if the app is _also_ open source.

dlehman · 4 months ago
It is indeed $19.99 here in Canada.

While a one-time fee seems preferable from a customer-standpoint, I personally prefer annual subscription fees. It allows for a potentially lower initial cost, making it more accessible to potential customers, but--more importantly--provides an obvious recurring revenue model for the author, hopefully implying on-going development. Ideally you would retain access to the app if your annual subscription lapses, but could receive upgrades after reviving your subscription. Whenever there is a one-time fee for an "average" app (no offense intended), I always wonder how the author can afford to keep updating it in the future.

Apocryphon · 4 months ago
There's something heartwarming that despite journal apps being such a huge category on the App Store, people are still trying to come up with better experiences. Gives hope for the platform.
xenodium · 4 months ago
Glad to hear it. I was also in two minds about how to position my app. Journaling as a concept may not sound very appealing to many (sometimes associated with keeping a diary).

Having said all that, Journelly can be used in all sorts of ways, including quick-note taking, shopping list, or even sending things to the app for me to save (a link to web, music, movie, etc).

allenu · 4 months ago
Congratulations on the launch! It looks very polished and easy to use.

Coincidentally, I've come up with same idea independently with my own journaling app with a social media interface (Minders). I've seen at least a couple of other apps that go for this kind user experience, which is fun, as there's lots of ways to tackle this type of app. For me, I put in some ideas consistent with social media that may or may not work (still figuring it out), like being able to "retweet" earlier posts, quote them, and reply to them, so it's kind of like having a conversation with yourself across time.

I've found that the social media-like UI really does help with recording quick notes to myself. It seems to promote more browsing than, say, a list of notes, and hashtags make it fun to jump around and see related notes, etc.

Best of luck on your app!

Rendello · 4 months ago
Both apps appeal to me. I really like the UI in the screenshots of Minders. OP's Journelly has a leg up in two very important ways for me though, both addressed in your FAQ: it has a flat payment model (though it's an option on yours too), and it has export ability. They latter is paramount; I know my paper journals will be around in 50 years, barring a fire or something, but who knows what apps and computers will even look like then.
allenu · 4 months ago
Thanks for checking it out! I'm going to update that FAQ right now since Minders does offer a one-time payment now and also does let you export for archiving (JSON, text, and PDF).
xenodium · 4 months ago
Thank you! Minders looks lovely! Been thinking about the space for a little while https://xenodium.com/an-ios-journaling-app-powered-by-org-pl... Amazing to see how we both arrived to a similar approach cross-pollinating social with notes/journaling. Nice work!

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notedwin · 4 months ago
Congrats on the launch!

An application I use for a similar “tweeting but for your eyes only” experience is Memos and the MoeMemo’s app. My main reason for using memos is being able to self-hosted the server and I can use it in the browser and the app.

links:

https://github.com/usememos/memos

https://github.com/mudkipme/MoeMemos

CaptainFever · 4 months ago
I second this. Memos was really useful for me before I switched to Joplin, though there was some UI issues with the mobile web interface when I used it (Moe Memoes is new to me, though!). Additionally, Memos is libre software, which Journelly doesn't seem to be.
asadm · 4 months ago
This looks very nice but $15 oof. I use logseq ios + mac app (with db in icloud) and it has been serving me well and is free.
xenodium · 4 months ago
I really struggled to settle on pricing, but landed on this as one-off payments are far more desireable than where apps are gravitating to (subscriptions).

ps. I've now gone full-time indie and hoping to make a living off my projects.

edit: typo

criddell · 4 months ago
$15 is cheap. Probably unsustainably cheap being a one-time purchase.

It always surprises me when people who know how hard it is to make and support great software, complain about a price like $15.

SanjayMehta · 4 months ago
I suggest you try a “lite” variant with an unlock price for the full functionality. Say the first 7 days free.

Like good old shareware of yore.

asadm · 4 months ago
I agree with your decision though: subscription would have been worst option.