> BunnyCDN was pretty consistently returning my blog post a few hundred milliseconds faster than Cloudflare
Makes me think that author's CF was misconfigured. Unless you're in a zone with really bad interconnects, like Brazil, or African locations, multiple hundreds of milliseconds shouldn't be possible as the baseline, much less as the difference in the saved latency. (I'm assuming the author talks about a single blog post request)
There is a long-standing dispute between Cloudflare and Germany's biggest ISP, Telekom, which results in terrible peering for Cloudflare free traffic for Telekom customers here. Sites on the Cloudflare Pro plan are not affected by this somehow.
If the author is a Telekom customer, then they would absolutely see 100ms+ improvements.
DTAG is just terrible. Having a whitelist of allowed mail providers they deal with? Check. Abusing peering to squeeze more cash? Check. Advocating for censorship on the Internet? Check.
>Sites on the Cloudflare Pro plan are not affected by this somehow.
This has been my general experience with cloudflare. Their free plan is abysmally slow. And even their Pro plans add significant (30ms+) overhead to requests.
This is not accurate. I do not know the details but netlify served things from a CDN by default if you set things up correctly with a CNAME entry in your DNS record.
People often misconfigure things by pointing their domain to netlify's IP with an A entry, but this is a user problem, not a netlify problem.
I'm sure their builds/functions run in a single region but not static files
Hundreds of milliseconds though? Seems highly doubtful, Cloudflare has latency in the range of 10-20 ms for most metropolitan areas, that they would that ten times that much for returning a blog post seems unlikely unless caching or other things are misconfigured.
Bunny.net explicitly names third parties handling user data, while Cloudflare’s policy is more vague, referring only to "third-party service providers" without listing specific companies.
I like the bunny policy more. It is more transparent.
But still good to know if someone pick a service with this intention:
"I’ve been looking at European alternatives to my current hosting situation, which is Cloudflare."
> bunny.net is fully committed to complying with the GDPR. We have overhauled our user Privacy & Data policy and taken steps to ensure no personally identifiable data is stored from your users that access your services through bunny.net by anonymizing any data that could be used to directly or indirectly identify a user. [..]
Looks like they share personal data of Bunny customers but not the users of the customer's services.
BunnyCDN has a great product offering, particularly if you've used Backblaze B2 as "ultra-cheap" object storage, the BunnyCDN product is very competitive pricing-wise, and the CDN configures seamlessly with it. And you can set up a cheap image transform proxy on any of your CDNs.
R2 is cheaper though if you storage cost is less than your bandwidth cost, and B2 has a feature to automatically expire items which depending on your design might make it more efficient.
Cloudflare sales folks are notorious for randomly emailing you and forcing you to suddenly buy 1k+ usd plans out of nothing suddenly.
Be wary of that scenario, it happens quite often if you observe cloudflare’s reddit sub. I think most folks are ok paying for stuff , aws being 10x more expensive wouldnt be so successful if people didnt like paying.
But predictability is important, and cloudflare salesmen can tend to be a bit unpredictable and unprofessional and extensively attempt to use all sorts of pressure tactics to reach their sales quota, so be careful.
I’m saying it as someone who extensively uses Cloudflare Workers and pay for their monthly subscriptions.
Might be worth adding that Bunny offers DNS services as well.
I've started switching a few sites from Cloudflare to Bunny and the experience has been great so far. Bunny offers custom name servers as well, so if you can setup glue records with your domain registrar, it's easy enough to have custom nameservers, DNS and CDN hosted with Bunny. Cheap as chips and great performance so far.
I'm looking for a decent alternative to ReCaptcha or Turnstile but haven't found one yet that has easy integration (form builders etc.)
My move away from US providers isn't in protest - it's just risk avoidance. The unpredictable nature of the current administration reduces the attractiveness of using US based providers.
What a pleasant post! Always cool to see new options popping up to make the web a little bit less centralized (the stranglehold that Cloudflare holds, admittedly in part due to them having both lots of features and good execution)
Crucially Bunny offers prepaid plans. No risk of sudden six digit bills. So glad they’re adding many more services under this pricing plan in their recently announced Magic Containers roadmap.
Agreed. I've been using it for all DNS and CDN for over two years now. Great company, great support, great performance, great API. Everything. Love it. I'm a big fan.
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> BunnyCDN was pretty consistently returning my blog post a few hundred milliseconds faster than Cloudflare
Makes me think that author's CF was misconfigured. Unless you're in a zone with really bad interconnects, like Brazil, or African locations, multiple hundreds of milliseconds shouldn't be possible as the baseline, much less as the difference in the saved latency. (I'm assuming the author talks about a single blog post request)
So, don't expect a 100ms+ improvement.
If the author is a Telekom customer, then they would absolutely see 100ms+ improvements.
This has been my general experience with cloudflare. Their free plan is abysmally slow. And even their Pro plans add significant (30ms+) overhead to requests.
https://www.peeringdb.com/net/196
i.e. Cloudflare is paying and needs you (the customer) to cover the cost.
People often misconfigure things by pointing their domain to netlify's IP with an A entry, but this is a user problem, not a netlify problem.
I'm sure their builds/functions run in a single region but not static files
https://bunny.net/privacy/
Tableau will receive your personal, billing and account consumption details.
MixPanel will receive your personal account details as well as information.
Active Campaign will receive your personal, billing, and account consumption information.
I like the bunny policy more. It is more transparent.
But still good to know if someone pick a service with this intention: "I’ve been looking at European alternatives to my current hosting situation, which is Cloudflare."
> How does bunny.net comply with GDPR?
> bunny.net is fully committed to complying with the GDPR. We have overhauled our user Privacy & Data policy and taken steps to ensure no personally identifiable data is stored from your users that access your services through bunny.net by anonymizing any data that could be used to directly or indirectly identify a user. [..]
Looks like they share personal data of Bunny customers but not the users of the customer's services.
R2 is cheaper though if you storage cost is less than your bandwidth cost, and B2 has a feature to automatically expire items which depending on your design might make it more efficient.
Be wary of that scenario, it happens quite often if you observe cloudflare’s reddit sub. I think most folks are ok paying for stuff , aws being 10x more expensive wouldnt be so successful if people didnt like paying.
But predictability is important, and cloudflare salesmen can tend to be a bit unpredictable and unprofessional and extensively attempt to use all sorts of pressure tactics to reach their sales quota, so be careful.
I’m saying it as someone who extensively uses Cloudflare Workers and pay for their monthly subscriptions.
I've started switching a few sites from Cloudflare to Bunny and the experience has been great so far. Bunny offers custom name servers as well, so if you can setup glue records with your domain registrar, it's easy enough to have custom nameservers, DNS and CDN hosted with Bunny. Cheap as chips and great performance so far.
I'm looking for a decent alternative to ReCaptcha or Turnstile but haven't found one yet that has easy integration (form builders etc.)
My move away from US providers isn't in protest - it's just risk avoidance. The unpredictable nature of the current administration reduces the attractiveness of using US based providers.