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ungreased0675 · 6 months ago
I’d love to see more awareness of the importance of indoor air quality this time around.
yoshuaw · 6 months ago
Strong agreement. Minimum safety standards for indoor air are as important as minimum safety standards for water and food.

For those interested: the International Society of Indoor Air Quality and Climate maintains a database of indoor air quality standards worldwide [1]. It lists standards by country, and allows you to filter by pollutant. CO2 is a commonly proxy for ventilation with values <800-1000ppm typically considered to be “good”.

For the US specifically: the recently published ASHRAE 241 standard [2] provides updated guidelines for indoor air quality. This provides stronger guarantees than the weaker ASHRAE 62.1 standard [3], as it specifically focuses on reducing aerosol-based transmission of pathogens such as (but not limited to) Covid-19 and H5N1.

[1]: https://ieqguidelines.org/table?factor=iaq

[2]: https://www.ashrae.org/about/news/2023/ashrae-publishes-stan...

[3]: https://www.ashrae.org/technical-resources/bookstore/standar...

Confiks · 6 months ago
It's even more important if this finding [1] (press release [2]) turns out to be true, namely that the amount of carbon dioxide in the air is not just a proxy for air quality, but that having less of it actually actively destabilizes virus particles.

Also, portable air cleaners seem to work pretty well [3].

[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-47777-5

[2] https://www.bristol.ac.uk/cabot/news/2024/virus.html

[3] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S295036202...

kelseyfrog · 6 months ago
What does actual preparation look like for me given the experience I gained 5 years ago?

* Ensure I have a stock of masks, disposable and washable.

* Re-organize and upgrade my home office / workspace.

* Proactively prepare myself mentally by strengthening social bonds, self-care routines, and overall mental health.

* Decide if I'm going to continue baking bread or explore a new hobby.

mpol · 6 months ago
Buy some soup and vegetables and fruit in a can. If you are sick for 2 or 4 weeks, you are self-sufficient. Instead of relying on family at your door, potentially making them sick as well.
orev · 6 months ago
Since the fatality rate is estimated around 50%, make sure all your affairs are in order:

* have a written will

* collect all login information for your important accounts

* collect any important paperwork

* make sure you have a good idea of the best medical facilities in your area and how to get to them

cameldrv · 6 months ago
Probably a good idea to have flu tests and Tamiflu on hand as well as these are likely to be unobtainable in a pandemic situation.
sauwan · 6 months ago
How do you stock Tamiflu? Isn't it prescription only? Or is it OTC in non-US countries?
ndsipa_pomu · 6 months ago
The problem as I see it is that large-scale farming creates an ideal place for viruses to mutate and possibly become dangerous to us. It's pretty much inevitable that we're going to get new virus strains emerging from livestock - it's just a question of when and also how well different countries deal with it.

A global approach is the only sensible way to deal with pathogens that can spread so easily as it's becoming almost impossible for countries to control borders sufficiently (especially if birds are a vector).

bryanlarsen · 6 months ago
Small scale farming creates a different type of ideal place for viruses to mutate and become dangerous to us because there is much more inter-species mixing. Keeping chickens & pigs in the same barn, for instance.
ndsipa_pomu · 6 months ago
Yes, but there'd be less chance of mutation due to the smaller scale. By having a large concentration of animals in a smaller space (relatively), it's like hitting the fast forward button on evolution/natural selection for viruses. To counter the extra risk, large scale farms should be testing for pathogen/viruses to at least get an early warning for when there's a nasty mutation.
freen · 6 months ago
Exactly the time to cut NIH funding, exit the WHO, and put a vaccine sceptic as Secretary of Health.

Obviously the work of a real genius who understands the power of using very bright lights inside the body to fight COVID.

Remember: COVID spared babies. H1N5 won’t.

bradhe · 6 months ago
Combine that with the real likelihood of a 9/11-type event due to collapse of the FBI and boy oh boy will Trump fans have a lot to answer for.
paleotrope · 6 months ago
We had a 9/11-type event and many many many smaller scale terrorists events WITH a "non-collapsed" FBI!
thatguy0900 · 6 months ago
They'll answer for nothing, they'll blame globalists for the terrorists and renegade fauci labs for any virus.
madethisnow · 6 months ago
disingenuous answer not becoming of yc
jaybrendansmith · 6 months ago
This is a factual answer. We need to keep the facts here on HN, other sites are being drowned in propaganda.
freen · 6 months ago
What, pray tell, is disingenuous?

Sure, the comment is a bit pointed, but isn’t the GOP the party of “F%#k Your Feelings”?

What part of my comment was false?

soared · 6 months ago
To achieve its requests in the US, the article needs more “oomph”. Do some mildly valid math to predict death counts, economic impact, etc and then maybe the government could be interested.
redserk · 6 months ago
Let’s go back to December 2019/January 2020.

Hunan shut itself down. There was video of hundreds of people in makeshift hospitals. Trucks with some kind of disinfectant spray were roaming the streets.

It was real-world impact. It was not theoretical impact.

It took us until March/April 2020 to start getting serious.

I strongly doubt the current federal leadership is inclined to act in a more risk-adverse way than in March of 2020.

cafard · 6 months ago
Isn't the current federal leadership the federal leadership of March 2020, minus a few grownups?
Mo3 · 6 months ago
I think many are suffering from traumatic amnesia of sorts. It took me a good few seconds after reading this to remember the makeshift hospitals.
ndsipa_pomu · 6 months ago
I found the science.org link difficult to read, but this seems clearer: https://cepi.net/world-should-prepare-now-potential-h5n1-flu...

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dworkr · 6 months ago
This is not optimal. We get one if these every 10 years or so. We should be always prepared, not "prepare now!" boom/bust cycling this stuff. This is new, but it is really not new. Waves of panic followed by apathy is not the way to do public health, but it is how we fund it.