probably more like number of job posts that include at least one programming language for conditioning. (if you want to look at relative trends). distribution over job class as well as an accurate count of actual jobs per post here also probably makes sense for measures of overall activity and longitudinal analysis. could maybe skip the deep counting if you can show that it's static across the dataset.

Number of job posts itself seems like a better measure of the state of the job market than mentions or mention-density. What aspects might mentions capture that number of postings wouldn’t?

Optionally, the novelty factor plays here: C++ created 40 years ago, Python a little bit later, and Rust less than two decades ago. The selection of programming languages should be augmented/benchamrked with the TIOBE index.

[1] https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

Yeah, I found the percentage of job posts with the keyword in https://www.hntrends.com when I was publishing it, was effective.

But growing rapidly. Most Rust jobs are still "invisible" in that they were C++ jobs that have turned into Rust jobs without hiring anyone.

I've had one contact from a recruiter saying they were looking for C++/Rust devs.

Obviously you won't find many on Indeed or whatever, since companies that advertise there are not really on the cutting edge or anywhere close.

Definitely, doing this on a game development board, or data engineering would give completely different numbers.

This is what I've noticed in the real world working. I haven't seen much enthusiasm for it. I actuslly introduced it for a new experimental project and got a bunch of push back on it.

LinkedIn doesn't even recognize Rust as a language you can select.

You can select Perl, Fortran and Cobol, but Rust? Crickets.

I asked them half a year ago if they would add it. I included a few sources, e.g. the StackOvflow survey and a couple of sources that showed LinkedIn's parent Microsoft's investment in Rust, but I only got stock answers.

So, Rust has some way to go.

Yes, since everything is declining, I'm left assuming that this is just an absolute count not normalized for the total number of postings. And we're seeing the total number declining.

Maybe there's another language people are mentioning that isn't Rust, C++, or Python?

I did Rust full time in a senior position around 2020 for a year. It's interesting at first and then it gets tedious. I have no interest in going back to Rust.

Too many rust jobs are in crypto or web3 stuff right now. Even if you like that tech, it's pretty undeniable that those industries are boom/bust and quite risky.

There are fewer rust jobs, but those that are there are reallly pretty desperate. Most have stopped agreeing to train people because of the time involved, and the risk someone won’t really take to it. Learn rust in your own to a basic fluency and you’ll be able to find a job

Be the change you want to see. I work at a polyglot company, and I intend to start using Rust for my own projects when it’s an appropriate fit (which it would be for a lot of the stuff I’m doing).

I had an opportunity to get an entry-level Rust job, but I rejected it because it paid only $500/mo. Now I regret it.

Bad for general trends for what jobs are you there. Good to help confirm a general trend of declining job posting and rising job seekers.

Honestly a bit surprised how steady the increase is. Guess that "the market will bounce back here" hasn't come true at any small point in time.

The article didn't claim it was a good proxy.

Have you tried uv? I switched to it from poetry a couple months ago. It’s not perfect but I’m enjoying it a lot more than poetry.

Quality of error messages is a really interesting quality metric. At the far worst end of the spectrum I nominate the latex compiler. "Missing $ inserted" anyone? What's the other extreme?

Still seems to be the same trend for everything except some certain web tech. Jobs today are roughly half of ore-covid levels.