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cafard · 10 months ago
> The basic story is that during the aughts, we had a bipartisan education reform consensus that was focused on improving school quality as an attainable and important driver of social and economic progress.

No Child Left Behind? It created tremendous incentives to teach to the test, and in some cases where that wasn't enough, to cheat to the test.

scarab92 · 10 months ago
No Child Left Behind incentivised teaching to the level of the lowest denominator.

That's a not just a problem in education. Lowest denominator thinking is endemic throughout America.

Don’t be surprised if countries that seek excellence, like China, eventually have economic growth that outpaces America for this reason alone.

Eddy_Viscosity2 · 10 months ago
I think the other side is equally likely (if not already happening) in that countries seeking 'excellence' succumb to the manager's fallacy of using metrics to reward and punish, at which point Goodhart's law kicks in like it did for no child left behind. Are chinese students cheating on their exams because its only the score that matters, for example?

The lowest denominator, lowering of standards, and grade inflation I believe are all symptoms of 'education' not being about learning and skill building, but about credentialization. If only the certificate matters anymore, then rest is just theatre.

EA-3167 · 10 months ago
Seeking excellence and demanding ideological conformity at the risk of prison don't seem compatible to me.
onlyrealcuzzo · 10 months ago
This is missing the forest for the trees.

The cost of almost everything government related is going up because the amount of money going to pensions is reaching its peak (the rate of increase was quite high for the last 15 years, that rate is starting to taper off significantly, and will pretty much flat line in 15 more years).

When a huge portion of your education spending is going to pay people that aren't working - you either need to funnel more money into it or cut.

When the economy isn't great (for the ordinary person), the ordinary person is going to choose cuts - and then they'll align their thinking to justify their choice.

Education is largely funded at the local level through property taxes which are rarely (never?) progressive.

If given the choice, I'm sure a lot more people would vote to make the Bill Gateses of the world pay more for education. It's not an option, so they're choosing cuts instead.

If it was an option, I'm sure you'd see a lot more ordinary people suddenly caring about the education of the poor.

scarab92 · 10 months ago
Australia’s superannuation system is how retirement funding in the US should work.
jrs235 · 10 months ago
Sadly NIHS is a severe problem in the US.

*NIHS = Not Invented Here Syndrome

blackeyeblitzar · 10 months ago
Do we need to change laws to allow pensions to be reduced? It seems like a pyramid scheme
onlyrealcuzzo · 10 months ago
The ordinary old person is unlikely to be in favor of that.

And the world is getting older by the second.

anon2549 · 10 months ago
The US stopped caring about truth, justice, and basic humanity. Caring about people is not in the cards at all.
pstuart · 10 months ago
I was blessedly slow to learn this, but a significant chunk of the population is motivated by hate.
vacuity · 10 months ago
It outwardly manifests as hate, but most people don't think of themselves like that. People generally view themselves as the star of the story. We have subcultures that make people drift towards certain beliefs and outcomes, all the while with those people largely being unaware of their course. You are noticing that there is a dominant subculture that indoctrinates with hateful beliefs.
jrs235 · 10 months ago
>motivated by hate.

motivated by the love of money, the root of all evil.

Dead Comment

fullshark · 10 months ago
A consequence of the end of the cold war and a belief among many that a few, exceptional individuals are responsible for the bulk of the ingenuity that powers economic growth.
scarab92 · 10 months ago
I mean, that belief is clearly true.

Look how much Musk has given to society. PayPal / Tesla / SpaceX / OpenAI / Neuralink.

fullshark · 10 months ago
So why educate poor kids? The exceptional will rise to the top regardless or emigrate to the US as long as we make it attractive to anyway. If all that matters is GDP and relative geopolitical strength of course.
joeconway · 10 months ago
Maybe put even a few minutes of cursory research into any of those claims
Izkata · 10 months ago
> I don’t want to blame everything bad that’s happened in American education on the little-noted 2015 Every Student Succeeds Act (ESSA).

Before that was No Child Left Behind, which due to perverse incentives resulted in us being taught at the speed of the slowest student. Wouldn't surprise me if this is their theory here too but most of the article is behind a paywall.

ahazred8ta · 10 months ago
Has anyone figured out where the mandate to eliminate academic 'tracking' came from?
brandall10 · 10 months ago
pickledish · 10 months ago
(sadly, I also tried this, but this snapshot seems to also include the paywall)
SheinH · 10 months ago
It's so obviously the phones. How is a child who grew up watching YouTube shorts supposed to sit through an entire novel without getting bored? They're used to quick and easy dopamine hits.

If you want literacy to come back, stop giving children YouTube shorts, TikTok, or Cocomelon.

Cthulhu_ · 10 months ago
At a certain age they will make that decision for themselves - you can't micromanage or monitor your kids' activities all the time. It's the same in every generation, it was TV at one point, then games, then youtube, then tiktok, and I'm sure the next generation in 10 years or so will scoff at whatever the younger generation does to get their distraction / dopamine hits.

That said, in the Netherlands there's been a ton of schools that have banned phones on the premises for various reasons. It's IMO ineffective as long as they also get laptops or tablets from the school, but it's a step in the right direction. There was just too much distraction and abuse; in a local example, there were anonymous "gossip" accounts on the various social media that would record and publish loads of random shit happening at school, often leading to cyberbullying and whatnot.

aprilthird2021 · 10 months ago
> I think it’s pretty obviously a combination of smartphones, social media, and short-form video. If you give people more stuff to do, they read less.

Bingo. I and many other adults I know struggle with this. Taking a book with me on the way to work today let's see if it helps

throaway89 · 10 months ago
Brutal for attention spans and satiety