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rgmerk · 10 months ago
Somebody watched Octonauts as a kid...

More seriously, this seems like an elaborate troll of space settlement enthusiasts. It's far simpler and less demanding than long-term settlement in space...and you still look at it and go "WTF would anyone want to do that? Wouldn't it just be easier to send robots down"?

ANewFormation · 10 months ago
Haha. People just have different drives. I'm definitely a space enthusiast, but also see this as an awesome idea.

In the grand scheme of things I think humans will colonize all environments, and starting to master water would open up immense amounts of land, so to speak.

metalman · 10 months ago
Submerged habitats are very unlikely to be a thing. Though humans have lived ON water for a long time in large numbers. There are many people living in boats and barges, veritable citys in south asia, and other areas. Submerged structures will suffer from hugely expensive engineering and construction costs, and you dont have to go very deep at all, before the pressure differential is greater than in space. Salt, corrosion, maintenance, wildly complicated and expensive.Air handling will be very loud, and prone to failures, water and waste, will also be extra complicated, leaks will be profoundly unpleasant.If we are talking about high end resort or theme hotels, then , whatever. On the other hand Mega floating and semi submerged structures can be built from any and all materials, and the engineering is strait forward. Still there is a vast amount of barren and waste land ,that can be utilised at much less effort, so none of it makes sense, except situationaly.... Singapor, and such.
Rhapso · 10 months ago
For me, asteroid belt settlement seems the most useful/reasonable. The motivation is simply that there is so much space for expansion. Space colonization is really just about humans keeping access to exponential population growth. Antarctic and deep sea settlement don't make sense because they offer relatively limited growth potential in comparison. They do make sense as practice/training for the next few thousand years of the average human condition.
baranul · 10 months ago
The argument of "just go send a robot", seems antithetical to life. The point of underwater settlements, looks to be an accomplishment for mankind, stretching the boundaries of what's possible. It's not that robots can't be used, but maybe more like how far can humans go.
bb88 · 10 months ago
Or that one Futurama episode, "I, roommate"

https://theinfosphere.org/I,_Roommate

nullhole · 10 months ago
"Sure, it ain't one of them la-de-da above-ground places,

but if you like dank... forget about it."

shmerl · 10 months ago
Or may be played Bioshock or Aquanox.
atmavatar · 10 months ago
Would you kindly come settle in Rapture?
bruce511 · 10 months ago
There's been a spate of underwater-living articles lately, and there's no doubt the ocean is an area ripe for research.

But to be clear, these facilities require surface support - they are not self-sustaining. Which is perfectly fine (the ISS is not self sustainable either.)

So this isn't "humanity moving into the sea", it's "humanity learning more about the sea". Which is certainly a worthwhile goal.

analog31 · 10 months ago
At the very least they need somewhere for bike storage. And none of us are self sustaining. Humanity needs the Haber-Bosch process and a thousand other things to sustain ourselves at the present moment.
BLKNSLVR · 10 months ago
But what colour the bike shed?
baranul · 10 months ago
Good points made. When looking at this, it occurred to me that It could have another goal, which is surviving a nuclear war or some other land based catastrophe. Definitely they are no where near to that being possible at the moment, but give it another 20 years, maybe this will be among someone's or an organization's calculations.
bruce511 · 10 months ago
We are so far away from living independently underwater that I'd say we're hundreds of years away, if it's possible at all.

Energy production. Food, water, air. Resources. Mining. Industry. The harsh environment (salt water, fouling et al.) Even "gravity" (as in, if you drop something underwater, some of it goes up ...)

hiatus · 10 months ago
> But to be clear, these facilities require surface support - they are not self-sustaining. Which is perfectly fine (the ISS is not self sustainable either.)

Who made any claims of self-sustaining? And in any case, the water cycle means land and sea are intertwined—life on land is not self-sustaining as much as life at sea is not.

bruce511 · 10 months ago
>> Who made any claims of self-sustaining?

No one in the article. But it has come up in the comments of previous articles (and I see in this thread as well.)

Life on land is self sustaining. Not in the "we don't need oceans" sense, but in the "we don't need people living in the oceans" sense. Conversely to live in the ocean we (currently) must have people living on land.

computerthings · 10 months ago
Or it might be just another variant of the various bunker building efforts to ride out the coming upheavals.
teleforce · 10 months ago
>anonymous private investor, has begun work to create a ‘permanent human settlement’ under the sea

This sound so preposterous as work to create ‘permanent human settlement’ in Mars.

But if given a choice which one to support with my money with zero probability of any returns, I will much rather supporting sea settlement than Mars.

delichon · 10 months ago
Do you have so little faith in humans' capacity to make Earth uninhabitable? There's no value to you in putting a few eggs in another basket?
xnx · 10 months ago
How would humans make Earth less habitable than Mars?
hwj · 10 months ago
If these are going to be separate jurisdictions it's probably not as naive as it sounds.
beretguy · 10 months ago
Makes me think about all these underwater horror games: Soma, bioshock, subnautica...
rpcope1 · 10 months ago
So does this mean we get Sealab 2021 in real life soon?
cycrutchfield · 10 months ago
If you’re looking for me, you better check under the sea…
UnreachableCode · 10 months ago
Maybe it’s James Cameron?
tazeg95 · 10 months ago
Already done in France in 1962 by Jacques-Yves Cousteau : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%A9continent_III
pimlottc · 10 months ago
That’s covered in the article. There’s even a photo.