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maivjj · 9 months ago
Having faced some personal chaos in life I don't think its more or less chaotic.

Its just the information overload environment produces more triggers. Reduce news and social media off consumption and it feels much less chaotic.

Info overload especially constantly looking at problems above the pay grade/skill level are just going to screw with the head.

Think about your first job, did you try to understand or solve everything the team faced when there was chaos? Initially you might try, but over time you settle into a role where you fit and tune other things out.

These days whenever I feel the urge go down some social media/news generated rabbit hole, I just open Khan Academy or ChatGPT and start talking/looking up some solved problem. Not the unsolvable stuff. It turns out more satisfying than consuming news or social media stuff. Other option is a good game. Changes my mood a lot.

BOOSTERHIDROGEN · 9 months ago
What kind of solved problems are you looking?
not_your_vase · 9 months ago
No. Times are always changing.

How is it now more chaotic than the smartphone and internet revolution combined with the war on terror?

How was the internet revolution more chaotic than the fall of the iron curtain, and its aftermath?

How was the fall of iron curtain more chaotic than the cold war?

How was the cold war more chaotic than WW2? etc etc

bloomingkales · 9 months ago
Well, it’s how chaotic people are during the chaos it seems. Chaos being a constant, we can simply factor it out. So I guess my question still stands, are we all reacting more chaotically to chaos?
mikewarot · 9 months ago
The only thing that makes this time seem chaotic is that you see more of the details.

The US was almost overthrown by a Coup in 1933.[1] There were huge civil revolts in the clashes between organized labor and the Donor class since the start of the Industrial Revolution. There have been organized systems of repressing most of humanity for all of recorded history, and I don't expect it to change any time soon.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

abenga · 9 months ago
Depends on how far back you zoom out to see. 20, 30 years or so? Definitely. A couple of centuries? Not particularly.
k310 · 9 months ago
"The 500 Year Delta" was about the convergence of technological and social change. That preceded Y2000.

Either things have changed further since Y2K, or we are still watching that play out. No doubt a major source of chaos is ad-driven (quantity of clicks/attention versus quality) media and their consequent, mostly unchecked, overrun by bots.

LLM's are a factor not in that work, and its effects are still playing out.

I believe that the very concept of meaning is being challenged by such "derivative" work. We used to write to create and convey meaning, not just to produce "a reasonable facsimile."

Change is accelerating, challenging our human reasoning and belief/value systems to cope.

dmfdmf · 9 months ago
Absolutely. The closest analogy is the social upheaval and changes in societal institutions resulting from the printing press. Read Clay Shirky's "Newspapers and thinking the unthinkable" for a sketch of the impact of the internet.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20052407

https://www.edge.org/conversation/clay_shirky-newspapers-and...

rcxdude · 9 months ago
I think not much more chaotic, but more stuff is happening, and it's happening faster (maybe not as much as it feels, because the internet amplifies visibility a lot more than it amplifies the actual rate of notable events).
deafpolygon · 9 months ago
Compared to what?

Compared to the last 1000 years? No. Last 10 years? Maybe a little bit more.