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krunck · a year ago
This is built upon OSSec[1]. While it works ok, with Elastic underneath it's far too much maintenance for my 30 servers.

[1] - https://www.ossec.net/

ArnoVW · a year ago
There is a hosted offering https://wazuh.com/cloud

I run an in-house deployment using the Docker conf they supply. It requires a couple of hours per month and mainly a lot of disparate skills.

The real thing that takes time is the installation and configuration of the rules and agents. That’s something that you have to do for any SIEM really, irrespective of open source / paid: you have to understand your nominal feed and that takes time.

yabones · a year ago
Sadly OSSEC is largely abandoned. Back in the day it was very good for a lightweight and effective security system for those that didn't want to install full-blown antivirus on everything. I wish they would donate the project to Linux Foundation or CNCF, but it seems destined for decline.
bluepuma77 · a year ago
It seems their official Docker image is 5 years old.
valyala · a year ago
It would be great to be able to use VictoriaLogs underneath instead of Elasticsearch. This would simplify the configuration and maintenance, since VictoriaLogs works optimally with default configs on any hardware. This will also help reducing hardware costs for large amounts of stored security logs, since VictoriaLogs usually needs up to 30x less RAM and up to 15x less disk space than Elasticsearch for the same amounts of logs. See https://itnext.io/how-do-open-source-solutions-for-logs-work... for details.
stego-tech · a year ago
Kicked the tires on it, but the agent requirement was a no-go for me. Coming from Enterprise Infrastructure, mandating Yet Another Agent is already knocking your product down several grades versus those leveraging OpenTelemetry or standardized collectors and forwarders.

An agentless Nessus scan (man, I miss Nessus) gets you 90% of the way there for all but the most security-conscious organizations, and its agent is honestly kind of light and simple if I have to install it.

waihtis · a year ago
Wazuh does much more than Nessus, for instance you can instruct the agent to temporarily drop networking if you identify a compromised machine. Agentless scans will do nothing of the like.
stego-tech · a year ago
I appreciate the different feature sets, but there's almost always another endpoint agent you can build that behavior onto/through in the modern enterprise. Posture control isn't exactly a unique feature, and my original opinion still stands: between CrowdStrike, Tanium, SentinelOne, Defender, AirWatch, New Relic, and OpenTelemetry, I've seen a web of similar-ish feature sets with agents alone consuming upwards of 10% of the machine's CPU power just in the background.

What's worse, Wazuh doesn't even fully replace any of those above agents, meaning it has to be yet another complimentary agent on the machine. No thanks, when New Relic + OpenTelemetry can feed me all of the machine's logs and monitoring statistics, while a competent ITAM/ITSM can alert on out-of-bounds posture and trigger network or Identity systems to shutdown access. Hell, I'm old enough to remember when basic log forwarding and SNMP traps were all that was needed to effectively monitor machines, before developers and vendors began locking stuff up behind new APIs or services they could monetize better.

Don't get me wrong, I want Wazuh to succeed because nobody should have to shell out thousands of dollars a month for basic security posturing and monitoring; right now though, Wazuh ain't it.

cyberpunk · a year ago
Spoiler alert: agent based. Ran it before, was a maint burden of the first order.
deskr · a year ago
It's not exactly the surprise of the century that running your own services, let alone a security platform, requires maintenance.

What was it specifically that made it a "maint burden of the first order?"

JediPig · a year ago
I have first hand experience with this product for over 2 years. It is a PITA from a SRE/Devops Security point of view. Things constantly break, the indexes, emailing reports, just general bit rot. The source code is at best a good first attempt, but sorely lacking.

I have built from ground up 2 SIEMS.

heraldgeezer · a year ago
Did you think it was set and forget? There is a reason companies have entire SOC teams only looking at EDR and SIEM.

What SIEM did you move to that was less of a burden?

thesuitonym · a year ago
I know of no similar package that isn't agent based, at least when it comes to endpoints. I'd be happy to hear an alternative, though.
rafaelalb · a year ago
Why was it a burden?
ArnoVW · a year ago
There is an agentless option that just requires ssh access. Not something I’d prefer from a security point of view, but it’s possible.
lfkdev · a year ago
Agent based is not really a big burden, most monitoring systems work like this (Prometheus). Companys use Ansible etc.
alfons_foobar · a year ago
Prometheus is not agent based though
arnejenssen · a year ago
It is mind-blowing that such a good SIEM (Security information and event management) software can be free.
alias_neo · a year ago
I'd like to give you a virtual cookie, for being the only person in the comments so far to spell out what SIEM stands for.

I appreciate you.

EatFlamingDeath · a year ago
Seriously, this is getting out of hand in the cybersecurity space. SAST, DAST, SBOM, WAF, SOAR, TPRM, NGFW, MSSP...
candiddevmike · a year ago
> such a good SIEM

Source? The value a SIEM provides these days is mostly the out of the box integrations and log parses. Wazuh is far from that, IME.

BrandoElFollito · a year ago
My team tested it when we were choosing an EDR and SIEM. The experience was horrendous.

The maintenance is huge, you need to hunt for rulesets, the EDR is half baked, etc.

pphysch · a year ago
What net benefits does a full blown "SIEM" add over a simple log database w/ alerting support?
lousken · a year ago
Building on top of elastic was an easy win. However, SCAs need a lot more love. Some of them are wrong/outdated, while many are missing.
bks · a year ago
So what SIEM do people suggest? AWS shop, EC2, VPC, Lamba, RDS