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rideontime · a year ago
The block is very amateurishly implemented, and can be circumvented by appending any query param to the URL, like so: https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/read-the-jd-vance-dossier?...

Update: I guess someone at Twitter reads Hacker News, because they finally forced me to delete the posts containing those links, a few hours later.

12_throw_away · a year ago
That's hilarious because their filters are sophisticated enough to block archive.is links to the same URL ... but can still be defeated with a query param. Seems like one of these was implemented at Twitter 1.0, and the other at Twitter 2.0.
12_throw_away · a year ago
Well, looks like they finally figured it out - but it's a hacky fix, they're still not using a proper URL parser. Here are some of the ways you can trick badly implemented URL parsers (haven't tested all of them on twitter specifically, but at least a couple do indeed work):

   authority:   https://user:pass@host/[..]
   anchors:     https://[...]/path#anchor
   path params: https://host/path;param/[...]`
   port:        http://host:80/[...]`

ysofunny · a year ago
wow, I suppose this is the quality you get when you fire all the workforce

"it's just code after all"

netsharc · a year ago
I hope it's some developer implementing Elmo's order of "Block this exact url" with malicious compliance, knowing about the possible workarounds.

(Could you replace e.g. an "a" with %61 and keep the URL working?)

alsetmusic · a year ago
I thought everyone was going to work hardcore to offset that. Oh well.
talldayo · a year ago
Imagine being an original Twitter employee that's still stuck around. You could ask for a 7-figure salary, and your toughest job would be implementing a regex filter for the JD Vance leak.
klyrs · a year ago
Musk would have identified the bug if only the programmer had printed their code.
klyrs · a year ago
Wow, good job Elon. I've downloaded the dossier and I'm telling my friends. Send Barbara Streisand my regards!
grahamj · a year ago
Yep, I only found out about it because of this news
abraxas · a year ago
Elmo's "radical free speech" on full display.
SmartJerry · a year ago
Doxing someone is not free speech. Documents aren't just 'hacked documents' when they include private information.
danillonunes · a year ago
The thing about free speech is that everyone has their own criteria of what should or should not be included into it.

When someone talks about "free speech absolutist", one expects they will include everything. No exceptions. After all, that's what the "absolutist" is supposed to be doing here.

If you want to add exceptions to free speech, then you're not an absolutist. You just have the same lame relativist free speech definition as everyone else. Except your criteria is different than the others. Which, I mean, no problem, but at least be honest.

listenallyall · a year ago
Documents obtained via hacks don't qualify under "free speech" and should be blocked, just like you'd block a list of people's social security numbers obtained via hacking, or secretly-recorded nude/pornographic material (without the subject's knowledge or consent).
chgs · a year ago
Yet more definitions of free speech that some agree with and some disagree with.

That’s fine, block whatever you want. Just don’t whine that others have a different view on what “free speech” means.

cdchn · a year ago
Except the indisputable public interest in having information about the person sitting on deck for the most powerful position in the world, as opposed to the prurient interests in seeing leaked nudes.
cogman10 · a year ago
You mean like the nude photos of hunter biden, stolen from his personal laptop, and shared across twitter without any changes? That sort of free speech?
2OEH8eoCRo0 · a year ago
Ridiculous. He's a VP candidate so these things are definitely in the public's interest and reporters report on ill-gotten documents all the damn time.

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/read-the-jd-vance-dossier

rsynnott · a year ago
As always, it is MOST improper on this website to actually read the article, but this is addressed in the article; Musk was upset when old-Twitter blocked an article containing hacked data. Appears to be a case of ‘free speech’ for me but not for thee.
jeromegv · a year ago
So why did Elon complained when Twitter censored the Laptop Biden leak? This was the same policy, documents obtained via hacks.
glenndebacker · a year ago
The personal information is blacked out... and Elmo still seem to block people for 12 hours when you share the link.
drawkward · a year ago
Do they qualify under "free speech absolutist"?
sys32768 · a year ago
X (Twitter) policy on sharing private information: https://help.x.com/en/rules-and-policies/personal-informatio...

Among others it prohibits sharing:

>home address or physical location information, such as street addresses, GPS coordinates, or other identifying information related to locations that are considered private

srid · a year ago
As it applies to JD Vance,

> X suspended Ken Klippenstein after he shared the Iranian-hacked dossier on J.D. Vance, which doxed his home addresses, phone numbers, emails, and social security number.

https://x.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1839382777223164033

Official message from X Safety,

> Ken Klippenstein was temporarily suspended for violating our rules on posting unredacted private personal information, specifically Sen. Vance’s physical addresses and the majority of his Social Security number.

https://x.com/Safety/status/1839392663864549688

kenjackson · a year ago
So if those pieces of information are redacted then the document can be freely shared on X? This seems simple enough to test.
coreyh14444 · a year ago
What about Hunter Biden's laptop? This was mentioned as a key reason Elon bought Twitter in the first place. And those documents contained way more sensitive data than the JD Vance one.
whimsicalism · a year ago
what is your question actually?

they also blocked the laptop stories

arctics · a year ago
I scrolled over the dossier and there nothing significant there, most of it is bunch of things he said, his investments, property, donations, tickets, taxes and so on.

Most of the information can be found online, this is just complied into one PDF file.

jeffbee · a year ago
What PDF reader would you trust to open and run a document reportedly produced by Iranian intelligence?
jimjimjim · a year ago
Any reader that has only bothered to implement pdf object processing and page rendering. Or just any pdf reader that doesn't have pdf javascript implemented
Psillisp · a year ago
My Nintendo Switch
hn_acker · a year ago
Rather than a PDF reader, how about a PDF sanitizer? I've heard of Dangerzone [1][2], though I've never used it.

[1] https://github.com/freedomofpress/dangerzone

[2] https://dangerzone.rocks/

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phatfish · a year ago
I used Firefox.

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karlzt · a year ago
>> complied

compiled

mayneack · a year ago
Yeah, the only novel info in this story is the twitter suspension. Very counter productive if Elon was trying to suppress this.
tptacek · a year ago
This is why no major media outlet ran this story when the hackers offered the documents a month or two ago: there's literally nothing in it. It's a standard opposition research report. The Harris campaign has a document just like it on their own Google Drive. It isn't even directionally interesting; it records every line of attack the GOP could imagine Vance facing (they missed "childless cat ladies", though!), and so calls out places where Vance is in line with Trump as well as places he isn't.

All the real stories about this piece are going to be from people like Klippenstein and Musk beclowning themselves over it.

LorenPechtel · a year ago
Streisand effect.

The dossier doesn't matter. The fact they are blocking it does.

spamizbad · a year ago
The omission of the "Childless Cat Ladies" comment is arguably pretty newsworthy since it has a bunch of implications, most notably being its the attack line that likely drew blood so to speak (the other a potential campaign blind-spot for how to communicate with female voters, a demographic the Trump campaign has struggled with)
rideontime · a year ago
Is Klippenstein self-beclowning? He readily admits in the piece that it's pretty much a nothingburger.
Hizonner · a year ago
What could possibly in there that would be more damaging than what you can get for free by waiting for Vance to open his mouth in public?
malshe · a year ago
Someone on Bluesky said something to the effect that nine out of ten times the shooting around Trump is just JD Vance shooting himself in the foot
bdjsiqoocwk · a year ago
And the tenth time they miss.
wtfwhateven · a year ago
So posting publicly available information gets someone banned but people can post horrific videos of children being abused with no punishment? https://www.dailydot.com/debug/elon-musk-reinstates-child-ab...

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