Other than turning down the speaker, what possible reason could I have to know that it's "too loud"? This reminds me of smart refrigerators that can notify me when the door is ajar. I'd rather have it constructed so that it just closes automatically. This is the general philosophy anyway. I know that something could be physically obstructing the door. But in that case, I'm more likely to notice a physical alarm than I am to see the notification on some tech device.
In that spirit, it seems better to have a speaker that can't be set higher than the "approved" maximum. If this thing is measuring actual sound level rather than set volume, a slow release limiter, either in software or hardware would just make it automatically correct without the whole notification cycle thing.
The README says that the tool "adjusts [the speaker's] volume if it exceeds a specified maximum" and that the notification is actually just to let you know that this has been done.
>This reminds me of smart refrigerators that can notify me when the door is ajar. I'd rather have it constructed so that it just closes automatically.
a world of liability is escaped by avoiding that feature add. This is similar to why self-closing doors/trunks/hatches took so long to catch on. It wasn't a technology problem, Cadillac and Rolls Royce showed this stuff in the 60s -- it was a liability gamble.
I'm assuming OP already uses Slack for other things. Otherwise something like push notifications via Pushover would be low code, high visibility solution.
The max volume doesn't help with songs that are far, far louder than others. I have this issue in our coffee shop, where a song that was playing at a normal volume on my AirPods, is extremely loud on Sonos. We flag it and take it off the playlist.
Side note: Sonos is atrocious when it comes to functionality and reliability, and it has only gotten worse recently. I can't discourage people enough from purchasing their product.
are sonos still zero auth when on network and discoverable? god we had so much fun biking around manhattan looking for open wifi, discovering speakers, and play fart sounds. i think the repo is still up: Sonoying.
Yep. They used to require a physical button press to connect, but that was a pain when speakers were mounted up high. The simple solution is to not run Sonos on an unsecured network.
Here is the recipe: you talk to them first about it, then they do nothing about it for weeks. And you repeat and it goes on. Then you create the script.
Nothing says, “I’m out of touch with the world today” more than statements like “just try talking to them”
Talking to people doesn’t get one anywhere in today’s individualistic society.
If they’re annoying neighbors, they’ll become even more annoying.
If they’re your kids they’ll just ignore you more.
If they’re annoying neighbor kids they’ll get away with murder while you can’t do anything and their terrible parents encourage them.
Awful people are awful. Reasonable people aren’t likely doing things that need correction to begin with, or will quickly realize they’re doing it and self-correct.
>Talking to people doesn’t get one anywhere in today’s individualistic society.
>If they’re annoying neighbors, they’ll become even more annoying. If they’re your kids they’ll just ignore you more. If they’re annoying neighbor kids they’ll get away with murder while you can’t do anything and their terrible parents encourage them.
If this has been your experience, that's a shame.
Talking to people has been the most effective tool in my dispute-resolution toolbox for decades. It still is.
This is the complete opposite of my lived experience. I've yet to talk to a neighbor and have it result in a more annoying experience, and my kids are great at talking things through with us without ignoring us. Not every experience is perfect, but then nothing in life is perfect all the time, so that's par for the course.
Awful people are indeed awful, but most people aren't awful. In fact, they're reasonable.
sounds more like you're just bad at talking... when I talk to somebody with respect, it's very rare they will they not listen to me, or that they wont make a good faith effort to try to help.
In that spirit, it seems better to have a speaker that can't be set higher than the "approved" maximum. If this thing is measuring actual sound level rather than set volume, a slow release limiter, either in software or hardware would just make it automatically correct without the whole notification cycle thing.
a world of liability is escaped by avoiding that feature add. This is similar to why self-closing doors/trunks/hatches took so long to catch on. It wasn't a technology problem, Cadillac and Rolls Royce showed this stuff in the 60s -- it was a liability gamble.
Huh? There are no refrigerators that don't have that feature.
Now SlackOps encourages us to make the same mistake.
I never want an IM saying something worked. That’s just noise.
Side note: Sonos is atrocious when it comes to functionality and reliability, and it has only gotten worse recently. I can't discourage people enough from purchasing their product.
It seems very strange that the relative volumes would be so different on AirPods and via Sonos otherwise.
Your side note is totally true. Since the “new” app it has gone to hell. Has now joined the queue of things in need of replacements in this house.
Just don't make 'em too effective. They gotta win sometimes or they'll stop trying.
Talking to people doesn’t get one anywhere in today’s individualistic society.
If they’re annoying neighbors, they’ll become even more annoying. If they’re your kids they’ll just ignore you more. If they’re annoying neighbor kids they’ll get away with murder while you can’t do anything and their terrible parents encourage them.
Awful people are awful. Reasonable people aren’t likely doing things that need correction to begin with, or will quickly realize they’re doing it and self-correct.
>If they’re annoying neighbors, they’ll become even more annoying. If they’re your kids they’ll just ignore you more. If they’re annoying neighbor kids they’ll get away with murder while you can’t do anything and their terrible parents encourage them.
If this has been your experience, that's a shame.
Talking to people has been the most effective tool in my dispute-resolution toolbox for decades. It still is.
Awful people are indeed awful, but most people aren't awful. In fact, they're reasonable.
a) space
b) Sonos speakers
and c) a slack channel
All with the same person. And if I did, I'd probably just turn the speakers down and tell them it's too loud, then set the volume limit in Sonos.
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