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pfdietz · a year ago
The AI program for recognizing bird vocalizations, Merlin, is available on your phone. It's really changed how birding is done. It will detect and identify the species of birds in real time as you are walking around, often before you yourself recognize them (if you are even able to).
quokka · a year ago
Merlin is fantastic!

But it it's not 100% accurate and currently focuses on birds from Canada, the US, and Europe.

pfdietz · a year ago
I've found it to be quite accurate here in upstate NY, with a few recognizable exceptions. In particular, sometimes it seems to think it's hearing a blue-headed vireo when a red-eyed vireo is singing. Also, it sometimes misreports yellow-rumped warblers.
dyauspitr · a year ago
How about an amplifier connected directly into the Merlin bird app’s always listening mode. You don’t even have to review the files. You’ll just get a list of all the birds it has picked up. Birdnet is probably the same API Merlin uses.
cjrp · a year ago
I’d assume so, they’re both from Cornell’s Lab of Ornithology. The Merlin app is incredible; seeing the calls identified in realtime is magic.
alhirzel · a year ago
I collaborate on a project like this, but using a distributed network of a dozen or so dumb recorders within 50 miles of my house.
anitil · a year ago
I'd be interested to hear more about this. I came close to working on a similar setup but the primary limitations were power and data connections. We figured we'd either need a manual rotation of batteries and storage, or maybe buried PoE to handle both. We never got past the initial concept
alhirzel · a year ago
Our slow-but-steady concept is down the batteries and storage fork in the road you lay out. Some areas are too remote for infrastructure, so we just revisit and change batteries and cards periodically.
is_true · a year ago
do you use the same hardware? I'm interested in helping a local ornithologist setting one up.
alhirzel · a year ago
We use dedicated trailcam-like recorders that drop `.wav` files to a 256GB SD card for a few months on four "C" size batteries. Several sites are very remote (islands separated from mainland by several miles), and recordings are scheduled for only 6 hours per day according to the study's focus.
sriacha · a year ago
Can you elaborate on your setup?
gizajob · a year ago
Why not keep all the electronics and sound card in the house and run a long XLR cable to the microphone?

Battery and sound card and preamplifier outdoors to then run a USB cable out to it seems like a bit of a faff.

hcfman · a year ago
I developed a recorder project last year that make's this easier and you could deploy it on a Raspberry Pi zero and use a wifi link.

https://github.com/hcfman/sbts-aru

It's using a cheap (0.40c) sound card, but personally I choose to have high quality mics (primo em272 mic capsules, used in high quality parabolic systems.

However, there's nothing to stop you using < 10.00 euro microphones.

hcfman · a year ago
sbts-aru writes the files to an SD card so you don't need a whole running windows for this.

Also, it passes all the audio through real time jackd, so while it's writing files you can also have an addition consumer running a real time matchin algorithm on it. If you use a Pi 4 or 5 you would be able to also do that at the same time on the same Pi as is recording.

hcfman · a year ago
Checkout how good the primo mics are here for example:

https://acousticnature.com/journal/how-to-make-diy-microphon...

contingencies · a year ago
PoE works better (cheaper, higher bandwidth, differential signalling for higher EMI resistance, readily shared, etc.). Plastic covers are ~free (splash out and deploy duct tape if necessary). MEMS mic -> I2C -> cheap MCU -> ethernet. Theory: Capture digitally, and send the data - forget XLR and other expensive analog 'professional' fancabulation[0]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag
hcfman · a year ago
POE very easily tends to inject noise into microphone inputs. If you run a Raspberry Pi for example with POE you get that. This can be fixed by using a power conditioning hat and a POE splitter but now the costs are really increasing.

But it works.

jononor · a year ago
I think you mean I2S (or PDM)? I2C is not common on MEMS microphones, as the bandwidth is generally insufficient for audio signals.
kazinator · a year ago
I suspect that though the author describes running a USB cable to the house, he may be preparing it for remote operation.

(If you can count on it being next to a house where you can run a USB cable, you could also just power it off USB and skip the battery, right? So the battery must be designed in for a reason.)

The mic is a condenser mic, so a pre-amp is needed, XLR or not.

Cheap mics tend to be single-ended things without the balancing transformer or amplifier, so that would all be extra cost. XLR connectors and cables are more expensive. You'd want to go into some audio interface with XLR jacks which is also more expensive.

gwern · a year ago
'remote' also means you can set up networks of them to cover your area. Just dump a bucket every n meters, and spend a few hours driving around every few weeks to harvest the data & swap out batteries.
pvaldes · a year ago
Or even better do it an isolated area to filter as much noise as possible
mcswell · a year ago
Are there microphones that would let you "listen" to bats? We have bats fly around our house at dusk, it would be interesting to know what they "say", especially when two of them come close (unclear whether that's intentional or not).
anfractuosity · a year ago
I've used Primo EM258 mics with an XLR adapter, they can pick up ultrasound, although the datasheet doesn't really mention this.

See - https://zachpoff.com/resources/cheap-microphones-for-ultraso...

Reading wikipedia "Bats emit calls from about 12 kHz to 160 kHz, but the upper frequencies in this range are rapidly absorbed in air.", so I guess the Primo wouldn't be suitable for the higher bat freqs.

bearbin · a year ago
hcfman · a year ago
Very nice project the above.

If you want to pay more you can also get Pettersen ultrasonic microphones. These have a USB microphone and will also work with my sbts-aru recorder. Which means you could in principle also geolocate where the bats are.

banga · a year ago
See also https://app.birdweather.com/ which uses a community of stations using AI to match vocalizations with bird species. It was pretty easy to setup a Pi with a microphone using https://github.com/mcguirepr89/BirdNET-Pi to start identifying birds outside my place.
thatsadude · a year ago
That plastic dish (parabolic reflector) is not cheap.
jojobas · a year ago
They link to Amazon and it's whopping $8.99.
Boltgolt · a year ago
It would be, if it wasn't just a "plastic bird-feeder cover" as the article suggests