> A parent asked a question in a private Facebook group in April 2024: Does anyone with a child who is both gifted and disabled have any experience with New York City public schools? The parent received a seemingly helpful answer that laid out some characteristics of a specific school, beginning with the context that “I have a child who is also 2e,” meaning twice exceptional.
> On a Facebook group for swapping unwanted items near Boston, a user looking for specific items received an offer of a “gently used” Canon camera and an “almost-new portable air conditioning unit that I never ended up using.”
> Both of these responses were lies. That child does not exist and neither do the camera or air conditioner. The answers came from an artificial intelligence chatbot.
> According to a Meta help page, Meta AI will respond to a post in a group if someone explicitly tags it or if someone “asks a question in a post and no one responds within an hour.”
"Dead Internet" is not a theory. It's an active goal for some companies.
I recently created a new account on Facebook with the single goal of seeing what was going on in my local community.
Firstly their search /discover was pretty terrible. I am sure that local groups exist, but searching for keywords mostly turned up communities with commercial angles.
Secondly even tho I only joined groups related to a very specific European location, every 3rd post in my feed is now bizzarely a scantily clad teen from Africa. I can dismiss these posts individually, but there is no way to tell Facebook's algorithim that it placed me in the wrong bucket, they provide no way to opt out.
If they really must insert random algorithmic content, Facebook already has all the clues they need to make it relevant, based on my searches and groups that I have joined. Instead their AI tried to play 4D chess with my preferences and outsmarted itself, serving me a horrendous swamp of teenbait slop.
They must've hard-coded something in recently, because I've got a permanent injection of scantily clad tiktok booty into my feed as well, and my account had no changes for years. I think they're just blanket applying it to all men now.
My friends, now we're all a bit older, don't post as frequently as they once did. I'm also a member of a couple of hyper-local groups which don't necessarily get posts every day, and I have no interest in anything else. I'm fine with this, if nobody's posted for a while then I'll see that and move on.
Facebook is not fine with this. Apparently I must be interested in archaeology, or sexist jokes, or various displays of flesh, or cars, or sports, or following someone that's making misogynist 'jokes' or ancient aliens conspiracies or a not-very-funny comic or more flesh or... I just must be interested in something, surely? It's just a matter of time before they wave the right thing under my nose and I bite and increase my engagement?
Is that the thinking? Because now 90%+ of my feed is unwanted shite and it's hard to find the few things I do go there for. And this is driving people like me and my friends away further, leading to a downward spiral of less content for those that remain, more 'suggestions' etc.
It's also baffling - multiple bullshit 'archaeology' groups will post the same picture (often of something not related to archaeology at all) on the same day, so they're clearly run by the same entity, spinning up millions of crappy 'groups' with low-quality content. Why do they exist? Who is benefitting from this?
AI can only speed up this enshittification, but the platform is already drowning in it.
Your experience sounds similar to mine with YouTube, especially if I try to watch videos without logging into an account.
Thus I have more than one account to use these as topical pre-filters. And when you loose your cookies, YouTube wants a phone number to "verify" that it's "me". Luckily, as a European living near enough to French borders, I can purchase temporary SIM cards in France and "verify" things during holiday trips and don't need to use my main phone account.
I watched a great video essay about this.
Bots to create fake articles, bots to defect fake articles, bots to use common word salad to evade detection, bots detecting the word salad, bots to make comments on articles, bots to upvote those comments, bots to aggregate these articles and generate articles out of the comments, bots to rip off and change a bit of the wording of an article so they could repost the article, bots creating ads to be seen by other bots, bots to register clicks from other bots, bots creating ads solely to game clicks from other bots...
when I think about "the dead internet theory", this is what I imagine. all of this happening over top of our heads as we chat on a forum, out of the way.
the essay mentioned a comic series called BLAME, in which machines programmed to build cities, buildings, infrastructure, got derailed after humanity perished, endlessly creating walkways and stairs and buildings to nowhere, for nobody, forever unempeded, as they were programmed. Much of it makes no sense, like the Winchester House's stairs into solid wall etc, but it doesn't matter because it's all just being done according to their railroaded programming.
wasn't like 70% of the activity on Twitter during the last superbowl all just bot-related traffic?
> the essay mentioned a comic series called BLAME, in which machines programmed to build cities, buildings, infrastructure, got derailed after humanity perished, endlessly creating walkways and stairs and buildings to nowhere, for nobody, forever unempeded, as they were programmed.
This is BLAME! (with the bang) by Tsutomu Nihei. There's a one tankobon prequel: NOISE.
Definitely a recommended read. The art is magnificent, the mastery of perspective incredible, managing to give you a sense of the unconceivable scale of the megastructure and by way of consequence, the mind-boggling energy involved in some events. It made me feel vertigo in spite of the small tankobon pages. The storytelling is top notch: few words, but a very complex story and setting connected through a ton of small details.
SNIKT! is a crossover with Wolferine (or rather, Logan), an unexpectedly excellent rendition of the character.
I can't see any other ending for this than people simply giving up on using social networks, at least those that exist now and exhibit this phenomenon.
I feel that in search of a few more dollars from engagement, they are slowly killing their main product. People will eventually learn that this is not a useful thing, and avoid it, although it happens slow. But once this enters the mainstream consciousness, it's over.
Maybe other social networks will appear, that will somehow guarantee you are interacting with humans, or maybe something else will take their place. But anyone who thinks they can extract value from humans longterm by drowning them in machine generated nonsense is wrong. People will adapt.
the more I think about it the more I believe people will, or should at least, return to the OLD internet... things like BBS forums, RSS feeds of people's personal websites or blogs, webrings... things that haven't been completely and totally usurped by ads to turn us into content cows.
I hate that I find myself thinking, it really was better back then
And the Cambrian explosion, exponential development this triggers. Esp with AI driving the development (evolution) of these bots, detection mechanism, evasion mechanism, optimization of ROI. Including testing ways to improve extraction of the asset called 'money' - from the abstract thing called 'humans' and their agents.
We meat sacks don't stand a chance. We need to evolve.
Sure. I didn't want to directly link it without being asked because I didn't want to seem like I was promoting anything or anyone, but it's this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXGjwf6zUWY
> when I think about "the dead internet theory", this is what I imagine. all of this happening over top of our heads as we chat on a forum, out of the way.
> The dead internet theory essentially claims that activity and content on the internet, including social media accounts, are predominantly being created and automated by artificial intelligence agents.
The theory predates the current era of AI generated content:
> The dead Internet theory's exact origin is difficult to pinpoint, but it most likely emerged from 4chan or Wizardchan as a theoretical concept in the late 2010s or early 2020s.
Not content to fuck up the real world, we've done the same in the digital.
Social sites, like systems, consist of inputs and feedback loops. How the feedback inputs are filtered is what we call moderation. Sometimes good, sometimes not.
Google tamed the web and tuned itself for its own benefit. SEO engineers noticed and motivated by culture's dear friend greed, they were some of the first to automate - faking traffic and content to shape google, the shaper. Fixing the fixer.
And now we add LLMs to the mix.
In control systems, negative feedback shapes the outputs in useful ways while positive feedback amplifies. We've set the dial to 11+.
It was not just Google. All of the search engines have an initial period of being good then when they get to a state of market domination or market penetration, the SEO and large companies with money show up. The SEO people game the system, while the people in companies with money, simply pay to be at the top of the chart or surreptitiously give money to be at the top of the chart. The surgeons are fine when they start getting market traction that the issue starts to pop up.
well, it all might be circuits giving birth to consciousness-es. like when matter bounced around and formed planets and stuff, except it's information parsed by evolving circuits in as many forms as possible just because there's always this one dude or dudette who's a bit slow on the uptake.
but then again, go outside and holla that fake shit. everyones trained and tutored by of through and for emotional bondage. even, or rather, thanks to the dreaming mind the art itself is disconnected and alienated from the manipulated and corrupt artist. it's not the kids playing music anymore, it's their shadows or their guts if you so will. once the music stops they are all back to being regular bots again. we all have only so much energy for putting up a good show, there's none left for playing our selves, for being honest, which is why it's easier to outsource as much as possible to digital and superego algorithms; just choose a flavor or more and the sim remains stable and fun and the kids will have stuff to digest and remix forever
wow, that sounds bad, sorry. i just get stuck if i write that stuff in a notebook. this forums level and kind of interaction helps keep the chain of thought going at the same temperature and in the intended hue.
i shouldn't do this again, though. apologies, if I annoyed someone or got them into a bad mood.
Somewhat related: "The Egg" [2009*] is a fictional short story by American writer Andy Weir. [1]
> You, a 48-year-old man who dies in a car crash, meet God, the narrator, who says that you have been reincarnated many times before, and that you are next to be reincarnated as a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD. God then explains that you are, in fact, constantly reincarnated across time, and that all human beings who have ever lived and will ever live are incarnations of you. [1]
There is a physical theory that claims that all electrons are the same electron, just travelling endless through time from the beginning to the end of the universe and back (becoming positrons on the reversed timeline).
That explains why all electrons have the same exact charge.
Read it long time ago, but never new it was written by Andy Weir, same guy that wrote The Martian. Makes me want to look up his other stuff to see what range he has. I thought it was all purely space program stuff.
I’m one of the authors of this article, great to see it shared to HN. It’s been interesting to see how the article has resonated with people, and that many of us are feeling the same way about the internet we know and love.
I think one of the responses to the growing phenomenon, especially as LLMs make fake content even easier and more convincing, is that we will see increased uptake on platforms like Discord where you have a curated and more intimate circles. Or maybe those like Musk will get his way and platforms like X will require paid verification!
> Or maybe those like Musk will get his way and platforms like X will require paid verification!
I would like for verification to be mandatory on platforms meant for "real people" to interact, but not "paid" on a proprietary platform, but using new standards for internationally valid identities. I am betting on w3C's Verifiable Credentials for that: https://w3c.github.io/vc-overview/
The problem with these sorts of ID requirements is that, even though we have lots of very good examples of government issued IDs, everyone immediately jumps to dissidents in authoritarian regimes and government overreach and Bill Gates conspiracy theories.
I think the fundamental disagreement is that, for some, the solution to poor governance is less governance, and for others the solution is better governance.
I am in the latter camp because I think it's apparent than in the absence of better governance, poor governance is replaced by even poorer governance.
The conversation is fundamentally about humans and technology.
The equation is roughly result = some human's intent * available technology
If some human (or organisation)'s intent is to deceive the elderly at scale and their reach is that much greater now due to new technology, what part of the conversation stops due to there being a human in the loop?
As the article points out, the problem is when Governments start using them as basically weapons.... and companies use them all the time for marketing...
Yes, there's a group of people behind those, but it's hard to ignore the difference between a single person controlling a couple of bots to post harmless updates or whatever, and Governments trying to sway the agenda of other countries their way.
> Nothing on the internet happens without human intent.
I have written many pieces of software that did something I didn't intend. I have the feeling it's the same for everyone who's written anything more complex than hello world.
By analogy, there’s some loose link to be made between this and the Dark Forest Hypothesis.
Given that the internet is filled with explicitly predatory algorithms and deceptive ‘dark patterns’ both trying to attract attention, thereby extract personal data or cash from humans, letting them know you are a human is merely to invite attack.
There may be advanced civilisations hidden online, but we are not them.
Like, resources and energy are fairly abundant in the universe. There's really nothing of material value that we have here in Sol that other species wouldn't be able to get closer to their own systems. So, scarcity isn't a big factor, I think.
Instead, the more scarce thing in the universe is life, with intelligent life presumably more scarce than that. We, ourselves, are the valuable things.
But Dark Forest theory isn't totally an economics argument, it's more of a security argument. With the vast distances and times, other species could become dangerous quickly, so kill them before they are. Again, the vastness and long time scales are just too loose of a thread. Even in the books, humans manage to seep out and hide among the dust and planets, doing things in the dark or in the blinding radiation of stars. So, I don't buy the security argument either. There's just too much space and material out there to really ever be sure that you could ever really sterilize the other species and not have them come back to haunt you. Especially by the time you actually figured out they existed, they'd be everywhere. (The books invent this dimension collapsing weapon idea as a way around this).
So, I think we should have the counterpoint to the Dark Forest theory of hunters with flash lights in a dark forest.
We should have "Used Car Salesman / Lemon Law" theory: Since you can't really beat them 100%, intelligences realize that you should join them; but on favorable terms, of course. So, beware of alien civilizations that appear in your system with lots of flags and balloons and bad ties and big smiles and want you to sign on a dotted line, fast. You can't really know if they are trying to sell you a lemon before the other civilizations show up and negotiations can really start.
Hmmm, I'm not so sure. If bots are perfectly mimicking humans then instead of a dark forest, it's more like a forest with a noisemaker fitted to each tree.
The algorithms make it very hard to judge how much human content actually remains.
The bot content is very successful at displacing the human content, since it's engineered to maximize visibility in a way most humans don't bother with.
It's funny that we have solutions (eg web of trust) we've just roundly rejected them. Normally I'd say that means the solution's broken. But today I'm feeling misanthropic so I'm wondering if the solutions are fine, and the humans are broken.
Either way, the end-state in Accelerando is looking more and more prescient.
(Fby vf znqr ubfgvyr gb uhzna yvsr ol cncrepyvc znkvzvfref gung unir qrnq-raqrq gurzfryirf vagb n Erq Dhrra'f Enpr-fglyr fgehttyr sbe pbzchgngvbany erfbheprf. Uhznaf hc fgvpxf naq zbir arkg qbbe).
The writing is clearly on the wall for the "internet" as there is no visible restoring force. If its not dead already, its getting pretty close.
It is a sort of tragedy of the digital commons, where the commons in this instance is the availability of extremely usable digital channel for people to communicate online in a decentralized way.
The early pioneers were really excited about the empowering potential of all this, but alas they did not work out the full dynamics of human nature (seeking short term profit, influence and control) especially when it is combined with the amplifying impact of automation and algorithms.
In short, the channel is being ruined by noise, the signal is swamped, the digital commons is being overgrazed and dying.
Nobody feels responsible for this. The stewardship of this most unique resource that was gifted to us by the digital age is laughable. A cacophony of commercial and state interests that have not produced a single positive development in the last thirty years since the invention of the web.
Arguably yes, though it varies by domain. The closest equivalent to the internet would seem to be printed information technology (books, journals, newpapers etc.). While certainly not without problems of all sorts, there are so many lessons there on how to mitigate the worst abuses. Ironically the "internet" is destroying that universe as well, without actually offering any workable replacement.
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> A parent asked a question in a private Facebook group in April 2024: Does anyone with a child who is both gifted and disabled have any experience with New York City public schools? The parent received a seemingly helpful answer that laid out some characteristics of a specific school, beginning with the context that “I have a child who is also 2e,” meaning twice exceptional.
> On a Facebook group for swapping unwanted items near Boston, a user looking for specific items received an offer of a “gently used” Canon camera and an “almost-new portable air conditioning unit that I never ended up using.”
> Both of these responses were lies. That child does not exist and neither do the camera or air conditioner. The answers came from an artificial intelligence chatbot.
> According to a Meta help page, Meta AI will respond to a post in a group if someone explicitly tags it or if someone “asks a question in a post and no one responds within an hour.”
"Dead Internet" is not a theory. It's an active goal for some companies.
Firstly their search /discover was pretty terrible. I am sure that local groups exist, but searching for keywords mostly turned up communities with commercial angles.
Secondly even tho I only joined groups related to a very specific European location, every 3rd post in my feed is now bizzarely a scantily clad teen from Africa. I can dismiss these posts individually, but there is no way to tell Facebook's algorithim that it placed me in the wrong bucket, they provide no way to opt out.
If they really must insert random algorithmic content, Facebook already has all the clues they need to make it relevant, based on my searches and groups that I have joined. Instead their AI tried to play 4D chess with my preferences and outsmarted itself, serving me a horrendous swamp of teenbait slop.
Facebook is dead.
My friends, now we're all a bit older, don't post as frequently as they once did. I'm also a member of a couple of hyper-local groups which don't necessarily get posts every day, and I have no interest in anything else. I'm fine with this, if nobody's posted for a while then I'll see that and move on.
Facebook is not fine with this. Apparently I must be interested in archaeology, or sexist jokes, or various displays of flesh, or cars, or sports, or following someone that's making misogynist 'jokes' or ancient aliens conspiracies or a not-very-funny comic or more flesh or... I just must be interested in something, surely? It's just a matter of time before they wave the right thing under my nose and I bite and increase my engagement?
Is that the thinking? Because now 90%+ of my feed is unwanted shite and it's hard to find the few things I do go there for. And this is driving people like me and my friends away further, leading to a downward spiral of less content for those that remain, more 'suggestions' etc.
It's also baffling - multiple bullshit 'archaeology' groups will post the same picture (often of something not related to archaeology at all) on the same day, so they're clearly run by the same entity, spinning up millions of crappy 'groups' with low-quality content. Why do they exist? Who is benefitting from this?
AI can only speed up this enshittification, but the platform is already drowning in it.
Thus I have more than one account to use these as topical pre-filters. And when you loose your cookies, YouTube wants a phone number to "verify" that it's "me". Luckily, as a European living near enough to French borders, I can purchase temporary SIM cards in France and "verify" things during holiday trips and don't need to use my main phone account.
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when I think about "the dead internet theory", this is what I imagine. all of this happening over top of our heads as we chat on a forum, out of the way.
the essay mentioned a comic series called BLAME, in which machines programmed to build cities, buildings, infrastructure, got derailed after humanity perished, endlessly creating walkways and stairs and buildings to nowhere, for nobody, forever unempeded, as they were programmed. Much of it makes no sense, like the Winchester House's stairs into solid wall etc, but it doesn't matter because it's all just being done according to their railroaded programming.
wasn't like 70% of the activity on Twitter during the last superbowl all just bot-related traffic?
This is BLAME! (with the bang) by Tsutomu Nihei. There's a one tankobon prequel: NOISE.
Definitely a recommended read. The art is magnificent, the mastery of perspective incredible, managing to give you a sense of the unconceivable scale of the megastructure and by way of consequence, the mind-boggling energy involved in some events. It made me feel vertigo in spite of the small tankobon pages. The storytelling is top notch: few words, but a very complex story and setting connected through a ton of small details.
SNIKT! is a crossover with Wolferine (or rather, Logan), an unexpectedly excellent rendition of the character.
I feel that in search of a few more dollars from engagement, they are slowly killing their main product. People will eventually learn that this is not a useful thing, and avoid it, although it happens slow. But once this enters the mainstream consciousness, it's over.
Maybe other social networks will appear, that will somehow guarantee you are interacting with humans, or maybe something else will take their place. But anyone who thinks they can extract value from humans longterm by drowning them in machine generated nonsense is wrong. People will adapt.
I hate that I find myself thinking, it really was better back then
We meat sacks don't stand a chance. We need to evolve.
It won't necessarily be "over top of our heads as we chat on a forum, out of the way." You missed people replying to bots, thinking they're replying to a person: https://www.404media.co/facebooks-ai-spam-isnt-the-dead-inte....
The theory predates the current era of AI generated content:
> The dead Internet theory's exact origin is difficult to pinpoint, but it most likely emerged from 4chan or Wizardchan as a theoretical concept in the late 2010s or early 2020s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory
And just my personal 2cents; I believe this was the result of predatory SEO.
Not content to fuck up the real world, we've done the same in the digital.
Social sites, like systems, consist of inputs and feedback loops. How the feedback inputs are filtered is what we call moderation. Sometimes good, sometimes not.
Google tamed the web and tuned itself for its own benefit. SEO engineers noticed and motivated by culture's dear friend greed, they were some of the first to automate - faking traffic and content to shape google, the shaper. Fixing the fixer.
And now we add LLMs to the mix.
In control systems, negative feedback shapes the outputs in useful ways while positive feedback amplifies. We've set the dial to 11+.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlR9fCXfWyM
Possibly it was extrapolating from the ruins of MySpace and similar.
but then again, go outside and holla that fake shit. everyones trained and tutored by of through and for emotional bondage. even, or rather, thanks to the dreaming mind the art itself is disconnected and alienated from the manipulated and corrupt artist. it's not the kids playing music anymore, it's their shadows or their guts if you so will. once the music stops they are all back to being regular bots again. we all have only so much energy for putting up a good show, there's none left for playing our selves, for being honest, which is why it's easier to outsource as much as possible to digital and superego algorithms; just choose a flavor or more and the sim remains stable and fun and the kids will have stuff to digest and remix forever
i shouldn't do this again, though. apologies, if I annoyed someone or got them into a bad mood.
> You, a 48-year-old man who dies in a car crash, meet God, the narrator, who says that you have been reincarnated many times before, and that you are next to be reincarnated as a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD. God then explains that you are, in fact, constantly reincarnated across time, and that all human beings who have ever lived and will ever live are incarnations of you. [1]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Egg_(Weir_short_story)
Kurzgesagt adaptation of the story (31M views):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fcK_fRYaI
There is a physical theory that claims that all electrons are the same electron, just travelling endless through time from the beginning to the end of the universe and back (becoming positrons on the reversed timeline).
That explains why all electrons have the same exact charge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe
Not sure it's a serious theory capable of proving something, but there you go.
I think one of the responses to the growing phenomenon, especially as LLMs make fake content even easier and more convincing, is that we will see increased uptake on platforms like Discord where you have a curated and more intimate circles. Or maybe those like Musk will get his way and platforms like X will require paid verification!
I would like for verification to be mandatory on platforms meant for "real people" to interact, but not "paid" on a proprietary platform, but using new standards for internationally valid identities. I am betting on w3C's Verifiable Credentials for that: https://w3c.github.io/vc-overview/
It's still a bit unclear who would have the authority to issue "real person" credentials, but at least in the EU that's currently being worked on: https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-...
In the USA, they seem to be trying to use Driver's Licenses for this sort of thing, see the ISO/IEC specs at https://www.iso.org/standard/63798.html
I think the fundamental disagreement is that, for some, the solution to poor governance is less governance, and for others the solution is better governance.
I am in the latter camp because I think it's apparent than in the absence of better governance, poor governance is replaced by even poorer governance.
The equation is roughly result = some human's intent * available technology
If some human (or organisation)'s intent is to deceive the elderly at scale and their reach is that much greater now due to new technology, what part of the conversation stops due to there being a human in the loop?
Bots don't kill internets, people do.
Yes, there's a group of people behind those, but it's hard to ignore the difference between a single person controlling a couple of bots to post harmless updates or whatever, and Governments trying to sway the agenda of other countries their way.
I have written many pieces of software that did something I didn't intend. I have the feeling it's the same for everyone who's written anything more complex than hello world.
Given that the internet is filled with explicitly predatory algorithms and deceptive ‘dark patterns’ both trying to attract attention, thereby extract personal data or cash from humans, letting them know you are a human is merely to invite attack.
There may be advanced civilisations hidden online, but we are not them.
Discuss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_forest_hypothesis
Like, resources and energy are fairly abundant in the universe. There's really nothing of material value that we have here in Sol that other species wouldn't be able to get closer to their own systems. So, scarcity isn't a big factor, I think.
Instead, the more scarce thing in the universe is life, with intelligent life presumably more scarce than that. We, ourselves, are the valuable things.
But Dark Forest theory isn't totally an economics argument, it's more of a security argument. With the vast distances and times, other species could become dangerous quickly, so kill them before they are. Again, the vastness and long time scales are just too loose of a thread. Even in the books, humans manage to seep out and hide among the dust and planets, doing things in the dark or in the blinding radiation of stars. So, I don't buy the security argument either. There's just too much space and material out there to really ever be sure that you could ever really sterilize the other species and not have them come back to haunt you. Especially by the time you actually figured out they existed, they'd be everywhere. (The books invent this dimension collapsing weapon idea as a way around this).
So, I think we should have the counterpoint to the Dark Forest theory of hunters with flash lights in a dark forest.
We should have "Used Car Salesman / Lemon Law" theory: Since you can't really beat them 100%, intelligences realize that you should join them; but on favorable terms, of course. So, beware of alien civilizations that appear in your system with lots of flags and balloons and bad ties and big smiles and want you to sign on a dotted line, fast. You can't really know if they are trying to sell you a lemon before the other civilizations show up and negotiations can really start.
Dead Comment
The bot content is very successful at displacing the human content, since it's engineered to maximize visibility in a way most humans don't bother with.
Either way, the end-state in Accelerando is looking more and more prescient.
(Fby vf znqr ubfgvyr gb uhzna yvsr ol cncrepyvc znkvzvfref gung unir qrnq-raqrq gurzfryirf vagb n Erq Dhrra'f Enpr-fglyr fgehttyr sbe pbzchgngvbany erfbheprf. Uhznaf hc fgvpxf naq zbir arkg qbbe).
It is a sort of tragedy of the digital commons, where the commons in this instance is the availability of extremely usable digital channel for people to communicate online in a decentralized way.
The early pioneers were really excited about the empowering potential of all this, but alas they did not work out the full dynamics of human nature (seeking short term profit, influence and control) especially when it is combined with the amplifying impact of automation and algorithms.
In short, the channel is being ruined by noise, the signal is swamped, the digital commons is being overgrazed and dying.
Nobody feels responsible for this. The stewardship of this most unique resource that was gifted to us by the digital age is laughable. A cacophony of commercial and state interests that have not produced a single positive development in the last thirty years since the invention of the web.
Has anyone worked out this … in terms of governance or anyone organized grouping of humans?