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hresvelgr · a year ago
I like Apple and their hardware but knowing they can axe my account indiscriminately makes this an immediate 'no'. Very happy with Bitwarden.
falkensmaize · a year ago
What makes you think Bitwarden can’t indiscriminately axe your account?
inhumantsar · a year ago
you can easily export your bitwarden data and self-host a bitwarden service
Larrikin · a year ago
It's nice to see it will work on Windows, but it's pointless to me if it doesn't also work on Android.
kylehotchkiss · a year ago
1Password barely works in safari if you use profiles. I’ve filed a bug in the past asking them to investigate and got back a boilerplate “try reinstalling” response. I don’t have the energy to chase down bugfixes in software I paid for. I’ll probably switch to this.
justinclift · a year ago
Wonder if it's going to be storing its data on iCloud in encrypted or unencrypted form?

Unencrypted form, or even encrypted where Apple gets to know the encrypted keys, would likely make this an attractive target for various groups (of both the good and bad varieties).

duskwuff · a year ago
This will undoubtedly be a front-end to the existing iCloud Keychain password store. Details of how this works are explained in "Apple Platform Security":

https://help.apple.com/pdf/security/en_US/apple-platform-sec...

commandersaki · a year ago
It would be surprising if it is not end to end encrypted.
zeroonetwothree · a year ago
It’s hard currently to get normies to use a password manager so I think this is very good. It will make it much more accessible for them.

Personally I plan to continue using BitWarden because it’s cross platform.

p51-remorse · a year ago
This already basically exists, it’s a table inside settings with all the functionality I used to use in 1Password. Even handles 2FA codes seamlessly.

My guess is this app will be mostly just an extraction of that table from Settings.

nozzlegear · a year ago
I’ve mostly switched over to this over the past year already, from my previous password manager BitWarden. My only complaint is the current Safari/iCloud Keychain doesn’t support arbitrary fields like BitWarden or other password managers do. I often keep crucial info about accounts in such fields, but it’s not possible with Apple’s current implementation. Hopefully their new Password app will support it.
appplication · a year ago
Yes, having a place to store security questions like whatever my favorite flavor of ice cream was 9 years ago (looking at you, United) would be nice and the main feature I missing now.
p51-remorse · a year ago
It doesn’t support arbitrary fields, but does have a plaintext, multiline-supporting “notes” field. That’s where I put security questions & answers.
LoganDark · a year ago
Are you talking about Keychain Access, or do newer versions of macOS have something directly inside System Preferences?
randomdata · a year ago
Newer versions of macOS have something in addition to Keychain Access, known as Passwords. In fact, when you launch the Keychain Access program it now asks if you want to use "Passwords" or "Keychain Access", the former opening what the parent speaks of, and the latter continuing to the legacy Keychain Access.

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sen · a year ago
Yeah I’ve been using this for over a year and love it. The integration is (obviously) so much better than any other pw manager.
sgarland · a year ago
Non-paywall: https://archive.is/2024.06.06-231437/https://www.bloomberg.c...

If this is decent, I’d probably switch. I loved 1Pass 7. Then they bloated it. I’ll give them that the SSH Agent is pretty cool, but there are alternatives to that.

caseyohara · a year ago
I'm in the same boat. I've been using 1p for a long time, and I'm generally a fan and advocate because it's the best password manager I know of. But I would definitely switch if a better product emerges.

The experience has gotten really frustrating over the years. 1Password used to be a delight to use, now it's bloated and unbearably and inexplicably slow at times. I much preferred the native app over the current electron version. The browser extensions are finicky. I don't love that the only option is for 1p to host my vault for me, but whatever, I guess I trust them.

tmpfs · a year ago
Hi @caseyohara,

You might want to try our modern, open-source, cross-platform alternative[1]

The self hosted server v1 will land in the next few weeks.

[1] https://saveoursecrets.com

blackeyeblitzar · a year ago
Since it doesn’t work on android it’s effectively an anti competitive lock in feature? We really need new antitrust laws and aggressive EU style enforcement
falkensmaize · a year ago
Please no. There are many alternative cross-platform password managers one can use instead. Please don’t make my software and devices suckier and harder to use to appease some EU bureaucrat.
syspec · a year ago
What about Google asking you to use chrome each time you click on a link in gmail, or not letting you copy an address without being taken to maps when you search on your phone?
blackeyeblitzar · a year ago
Google and MS also need to be fined and split up.