I feel like we're reaching an inflection point where tech-companies are about to discover whether humans are willing to live in an all-digital world, or if they would rather just continue physical reality with digital-enhancements.
Tech companies keep pushing towards all-digital because they carry a lot more power in a world of their own making. They keep trying to get away from solving real-world pain points (e.g. being able to talked to loved ones) to solving for manufactured pain points (e.g. dopamine addiction to short-form content).
Smartphones (still) offer novelty, and there are no alternatives to some of their useful functions, hence popularity. I’ll be livid if smartphone-type devices are popular a century from now.
Multi-monitor support might have made this worthwhile for professional / prosumer users.
But you can only have a single display in VR. My single oldschool physical display works way better. So this limitation makes it an expensive curiosity than a useful tool.
I actually really enjoy mine, and having fun learning how to do iOS/VR development. That being said, until it can run MacOS apps I can't really replace my laptop (instead have to connect it to the AVP). Assuming that's a software limitation and not something that requires upgraded hardware I hope they plan to release that functionality soon
It is highly unlikely that iPads or AVP will ever natively run Mac apps. At best, you would be able to run MacOS as a VM with some clever maintenance/windowing/storage tweaks.
I do, too, and agree with what you're saying. This device is great if you can afford to drop the cash on it and have use cases for which it excels. I would love it to run Mac apps, but am just as happy projecting my Mac to it. Content consumption is great on it, and I really enjoy working with it on. If only my coworkers didn't find my ghostly Persona do off-putting during Zoom calls.
I do use projecting the mac, but it's not a great experience overall. Like it doesn't utilize any of the AVP interaction paradigms and if I want to use a keyboard I have to decide to hook it up to my mac or my AVP
Apple wants you to buy both (as with the iPad), and maybe more importantly wants the OS of new device categories to be much less open (more controllable) than macOS is. So that’s very unlikely.
I mean, i'm all in on apple and have all that stuff. Would be fine if it's up offloading compute to a mac or something like that and make the integration more seamless
Quest 2: 20 million (installs?) from oct'20 - q1'23, so lets say 2.5 years. (makes sense, Qualcomm said 10m in dec'21)
Quest 3 Sold an Estimated 900K-1.5 Million Units in Q4 2023.
Vision Pro is nice and all, but it's such a high price to pay although you're essentially buying a macbook pro. Still, in terms of revenue is still $1.4B for the quarter
This proves that there are at least 400k die-hard-price-insensitive Apple enthusiasts who are willing to spend that much for Apple’s latest gadgets. If I was Apple’s executive, I would double down on more high-priced novel products, even niche ones, that integrate in various ways to the Apple ecosystem.
That's a projection for the rest of the year and probably still way optimistic. It's quite possible that the current trend is for a much smaller number.
Yeah I'm the only person I know who has one (I know one other buyer but they returned it). I'm honestly shocked it's over 100k sold since I feel like i'm in a pretty tech-early-adopter bubble
I think Apple was out of touch releasing such an expensive product with such niche use cases in the current times. If they wanted us to become early adopters and proof-of-concept testers, they should've subsidized the cost, to grow the market while working on improving the device.
This isn’t Amazon. There is no 10 or 20 year vision. These Fortune 500 companies only have visions that last a couple of years, and in some cases a few quarters.
Apple has released dev kits before. Most recently the apple silicon devkits. Those have pretty much universally been explicit and have come with a requirement to return the devkits once consumer hardware capable of being development hardware is released.
They were hoping for consumer (or industry) acceptance. They visibly did not get that.
Then ship it opened up, but perhaps more unpolished, to devs. Right now I think it's lack of success is that it's inbetween both. It's useless as a dev kit, too polished and locked down. Useless as a consumer unit when no one makes things for it.
While Oculus didn't take off, the DK1 had a massive hype and a large community building stuff.
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Tech companies keep pushing towards all-digital because they carry a lot more power in a world of their own making. They keep trying to get away from solving real-world pain points (e.g. being able to talked to loved ones) to solving for manufactured pain points (e.g. dopamine addiction to short-form content).
But you can only have a single display in VR. My single oldschool physical display works way better. So this limitation makes it an expensive curiosity than a useful tool.
That's not a hardware limitation.
See https://immersed.com
In AVP I tend to run three displays equivalent to MacBook screen, but five is fine too in a kind of + shape.
They seem to have misestimated the number of folks deliberately purchasing to blog or YouTube about it then return it.
I remember the same comments when the iPad came out 14 years ago
Hint: never gonna happen
I think the Vision is too expensive and has too little software support.
Quest 3 Sold an Estimated 900K-1.5 Million Units in Q4 2023.
Vision Pro is nice and all, but it's such a high price to pay although you're essentially buying a macbook pro. Still, in terms of revenue is still $1.4B for the quarter
This means so they are likely in the red (unprofitable) on VisionPro.
This ignores the opportunity cost of the VisionPro team working on something else.
Apple could have made normal fashionable glasses with a screen aka The Apple Watch / Apple AirPods strategy - but for eyes.
But they went the heavy ski mask strategy with 2 hour battery life.
This isn’t Amazon. There is no 10 or 20 year vision. These Fortune 500 companies only have visions that last a couple of years, and in some cases a few quarters.
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They were hoping for consumer (or industry) acceptance. They visibly did not get that.
While Oculus didn't take off, the DK1 had a massive hype and a large community building stuff.
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