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BobbyTables2 · 2 years ago
Why such a high bar?

How many even earn (from scratch) $100 Million by age 30?

One would only have to save an average of $1000/hr, 24 hrs/day, 7 days/week, for a brief 10 years to reach just that level.

Clearly it’s too easy.

neom · 2 years ago
I wonder how you'd classify Kylie Jenner. On one hand, she's inherited the Jenner name and I'm sure wealth, however my understanding is she works quite hard and has earned a lot of her own money.
c_o_n_v_e_x · 2 years ago
If Kylie or any other Jenner were a business for sale, the Jenner name (brand) alone carries significant value as an intangible asset.
cko · 2 years ago
Selena Gomez is supposedly worth more due to ownership in her own makeup line, though she is older.
paxys · 2 years ago
I'd say she qualifies as self made, but her current net worth is estimated to be $680 million.
dangus · 2 years ago
She absolutely does not qualify as self-made.

Don't get me wrong, building a sustainable beauty brand on is no small feat. However, her family name alone is like inheriting a gigantic free marketing budget.

Remember that things that aren't money can have a lot of value, like followers and viewers.

Let's say right now I figured out how to produce the greatest beauty products in the world. They beat all competitors by a significant margin and cost less. They're available on my website right now.

How much money would I have to spend in order to start from zero and sell a few million units? It would definitely cost me thousands if not millions to start a national advertising campaign. Kylie didn't have to spend anywhere near as much as other equivalent companies to build its sales.

Solvency · 2 years ago
Damn they spoon fed you this narrative and you ate it right up.
nbvkappowqpeop · 2 years ago
I was quite surprised by OP's comment too. Seems like media does work..
Cheer2171 · 2 years ago
There is no way Jenner would have been in a position to apply that hard work to such a profit without the inheritance.

The myth of America is that anyone can be a billionaire, if they are talented and put in the work. This is not true.

paxys · 2 years ago
Self made doesn't have to mean being an orphan and starting with $0. Zuckerberg and Gates for example had more support and opportunity than 99.9999% of the planet (Harvard education, wealthy parents, access to computers, strong network), yet they clearly deserve full credit for their achievements. Kylie Jenner is no different. There are plenty of celebrity kids out there, but none who founded a cosmetics company that was valued at $1.2 billion.
ironSkillet · 2 years ago
Billionaire? You're exaggerating.
gardenhedge · 2 years ago
She founded her company from the money she got given from TV work. She was given the money, the brand and the audience. She could have gotten rich(er) selling flavored bubble gum.
Solvency · 2 years ago
When and who was the last time a person who came from proportionately "nothing" became a billionaire? Maybe by nothing I mean parents with no savings account.
blackhawkC17 · 2 years ago
Not surprising? It's virtually impossible to be a dollar billionaire under 30 without inheritance. Heck, the average 30-year-old doesn't even have close to $10 million.

Only an extremely small number of people have done that, e.g., Palmer Luckey and Kylie Jenner.

tredre3 · 2 years ago
> Heck, the average 30-year-old doesn't even have close to $10 million.

I'm going to do a wild guess here and say that the average 30-year-old, outside the valley bubble, doesn't even have $1 million.

caseyy · 2 years ago
HN bias in these statements is wild. The average 30-year old probably has closer to $5k in savings and somewhere around that in net worth.
russfink · 2 years ago
Without inheritance. Or crime.
blackhawkC17 · 2 years ago
Can you name the <30 years old criminal who stole $1 billion+, save for SBF?
worewood · 2 years ago
It's virtually impossible to be a dollar billionaire, period
robocat · 2 years ago
Looks like Adam Neumann was under 30 when he became a billionaire.

This moment in time figure is silly. What about the kids today that become billionaires before 30?

throwaway22032 · 2 years ago
Am I supposed to find this offensive?

A 30 year old has had around 12-14 years since their first summer job.

Compound growth over 20, 30, 40, 50 years is far greater.

paxys · 2 years ago
tredre3 · 2 years ago
Impressive story! It certainly does feel self made.

But I'm going to guess that his net worth is entirely based on his ownership in LAZR, which is currently worth 1/3 of when this article was published (putting his net worth at 500M assuming he hasn't been diluted further).

dangus · 2 years ago
I'd argue that a $100,000 grant from an investor like Peter Theil isn't functionally all that different than an inheritence in all the ways that matter.

Remember that recent Paul Graham article posted here advising students to get into the most selective school they could for networking reasons? Not because those schools have a better education.

If this guy went to a different university, I bet they would have never had the opportunity to demonstrate their venture to Peter Thiel. Getting into Stanford is itself is something that functions a lot like an "inheritance." The mere fact that you are there is a gigantic leg up.

To me, "self-made" would be building a profitable business completely bootstrapped with either personal funds or maybe at most a small business loan from a bank.

But then again, this whole distinction of "self-made" is a bit of an exercise on where you draw that line.

joegibbs · 2 years ago
It sounds like a damning indictment of capitalism until you read the part where it says that there are only 15 of them in the entire world.
paxys · 2 years ago
It's pointless to even try and calculate this number. There are ~3000 billionaires in the world. Most/all of them have children, and I'd wager a large chunk of these children have access to >$1B of the wealth, whether on paper or not. The only special thing about these 15 is that their parents are dead and/or their inheritance or trust fund has already kicked in.
dataflow · 2 years ago
I mean, what's the takeaway in your mind? If there was 1 person in the whole world that owned half its wealth, would you find it un-damning because it's just 1 person?
joegibbs · 2 years ago
If the problem is that there aren't enough self-made billionaires, it's bad journalism to take an arbitrary slice of 15 out of 2700 of them and act as if they're representative of the problem. We could redistribute their wealth and everyone in the world would maybe get a couple of dollars.

I think if someone wants to make a point about whether billionaires are self-made or not, they should look at a more representative sample.

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