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pwahs · a year ago
Can confirm, my version here also got a notice: https://github.com/pwahs/fillominordle

Full notice is here: https://enterprise.githubsupport.com/attachments/token/cx6V4...

igitur · a year ago
In that notice, they claim:

> We have given the owner a chance to remove all references to Wordle and alter his code to not infringe The Times’s copyright, but he has doubled down on knocking off The Times’s copyrighted content.

This is just false. The owner of the original Reactle repo (now deleted) was never contacted previously.

skrebbel · a year ago
I don’t understand why lawyers aren’t disbarred when caught flat out lying in contracts, injunctions and the likes. The fact that this behavior is considered “ok” reflects awfully on the entire profession.
poizan42 · a year ago
Did you file a counter notice? I assume so since it's still up?
sp332 · a year ago
Well I had a NYT games subscription, but I just cancelled it. I can't believe they used my money to take down a bunch of games I also played.
nesswit · a year ago
I received the same email. My repository is yf-dev/mahjong-hand-guessing-game, and it's a variant of the Wordle game with Japanese Rich Mahjong rules. I don't think it's the same game as Wordle, because it's not a word-guessing game, and it has a 14x6 grid. The name of the game is also inspired by Wordle, hence Mahjong Handle, but handle is a common noun that already exists, so I don't think there's a problem.

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jamestimmins · a year ago
Can anyone speak to how/why they have this ability?

Isn't Wordle effectively just a game UX pattern? How is that copyrightable?

nitwit005 · a year ago
The game mechanics are not copyrightable (possibly patentable).

Obviously, borrowing art or design could be a copyright problem, but I have to suspect they're just blindly searching for "wordle" and sending takedowns to anything they see.

abhorrence · a year ago
The only thing I can imagine here is that many of the games have "dle" or "le" suffixes and sometimes even describe themselves as "Wordle, but...". It seems more likely that it's NYT's lawyers hoping to bully the "competition".
cma · a year ago
NYT does have a trademark on Wordle, but that shouldn't be covered by the DMCA.
martinky24 · a year ago
IANAL. So long as you own a legitimate copyright, you can send a DMCA takedown about whatever you want. That doesn't mean it's 100% legally robust.
op00to · a year ago
Sending a fraudulent DMCA notice can open the sender to fines, penalties, and legal costs and damages.

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logicalfails · a year ago
I bet some NYT is planning some changes to Wordle use/tracking so they have to clamp down on the competition. They will likely requiring NYT login just to play, or adding additional ads to page
leotravis10 · a year ago
Or pay to play aka a NYT Games sub.
josephcsible · a year ago
Game mechanics aren't copyrightable, right? So unless these clones copied the code, aren't these takedowns invalid?
jsheard · a year ago
In general you can't copyright game mechanics, but trade dress laws provide a loophole around that. You can legally protect how a game is presented, and in some cases that's intrinsically tied to the game mechanics enough that you can't really get around it, which is how The Tetris Company has been able to effectively lock down the exclusive rights to the Tetris mechanics and successfully sued those who tried to make a Tetris clone without their approval.
akudha · a year ago
If I made a scrabble app, is that not allowed? How come Wordfeud, words with friends etc are allowed?
josephcsible · a year ago
But does the DMCA apply to trade dress?
usmansme · a year ago
I got the same email today for a fork of `thesam73/wordle`

I still have mixed feelings about this one. Because if let's say someone is learning web dev and thinks of building such clone and open sources it on GitHub, isn't that stopping people from learning?

Edit: Seems like the author does not want to fight NYT and hence disabled the repo. I think that's ok and I'll do the same (they also want all forks to be gone)

https://web.archive.org/web/20240306171920/https://github.co...