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mikece · 2 years ago
WinRAR was and still in fantastic software if you're working on Windows. I know there are CLI tools for macOS, FreeBSD, and Linux but in terms of guaranteed compatibility and being understood by users zip will always be my go-to format. It's like comparing AAC to MP3: the former is superior quality at a smaller size but I have to explain to some people (too many, really) how to play an AAC file while MP3 just works for everyone.
FirmwareBurner · 2 years ago
WinRAR is heavily entrenched in the PC space since the early Warez/DC++/BitTorrent days when storage and internet bandwidth was scarce so media was split in smaller files compressed as tightly as possible, preferably self extracting as well.

So any pirated content you'd download 20+ years ago was almost guaranteed to be RAR archived. Or sometimes even WinACE [1], anyone remember that one? It was awesome as well. Seems like the early 2000's was a war of compression formats similar to VHS vs Betamax decades earlier.

If you go on older established torrent trackers you can still find original torrents/content archived in RAR or ACE formats. Like Disney's Hercules for example.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinAce

0x457 · 2 years ago
It's because since RAR is proprietary and didn't have a corporation friendly way to look inside those archives, so they couldn't be scanned.

For users, it was not an issue since they don't have to worry about licensing and whatnot.

WinRAR was also a fun target to write your very own crack for it. You could crack it multiple ways a well: remove the dialog and change texts, patch it to think it's licensed or write a keygen.

nly · 2 years ago
bonton89 · 2 years ago
It's my understanding that RAR has some kind of built in data recovery like PAR and I believe had better encryption support early on. IIRC traditional zip encryption was kind of a joke, maybe it was neutered to comply with the export restrictions from the 90s.

Spanning is old as dirt, I remember doing it with pkzip and floppies so I don't think it is something unique to RAR.

mobilio · 2 years ago
RAR file format have heavy encryption even on filenames. So 3rd party observers can't see what IS inside of archive actually.

If you encrypt ZIP file - then filenames aren't encrypted, only content.

pheatherlite · 2 years ago
WinAce, what fond memories. Remind me again why it never caught on?
nubinetwork · 2 years ago
Windows Explorer can already open them, kindof makes a third party app useless.
0x073 · 2 years ago
Windows Explorer is worse than 7z or others. Sometimes it doesnt work where other extract the content without problems.
Ekaros · 2 years ago
On other hand WinRAR handles running software inside archive much better. So if you only need to run some portable tool one or two time it is pretty handy as there is no need to extract it.
trollied · 2 years ago
I actually paid for winrar in 2006. The meme does happen.
theogravity · 2 years ago
There's a facebook group for people to announce they paid for WinRAR because of the no one pays for it meme. Can't remember what it was called.

I paid for winrar I think 15 years ago when I started working full time and it was the first shareware app I paid for. I don't use it as much as I used to nowadays.

Surprised it's still being updated. I thought the creator of WinRAR passed away.

MomoXenosaga · 2 years ago
WinRAR is still recommended in piracy circles.
FirmwareBurner · 2 years ago
Why NOT pay for software you use?

Especially if it's a useful tool and developed by a small team(one guy?) instead of an evil multi-trillion tax-dodging conglomerate.

I also paid for the BOSCH drill I use, my 4K monitor, ergonomic chair and other such work tools, so why not pay for SW tools as well?

cesarb · 2 years ago
> I also paid for the BOSCH drill I use, my 4K monitor, ergonomic chair and other such work tools, so why not pay for SW tools as well?

None of these are a useful comparison, since they're physical objects which cannot be infinitely copied, so the reasons to pay for them do not necessary apply to software.

> Why NOT pay for software you use?

Each person probably has a different answer, and the same person might have different answers in different situations. In my case, nearly all of the software I use is free software, which is offered free of charge (and any payment I make is actually a donation to the developer, not paying for the software).

trollied · 2 years ago
> Why NOT pay for software you use?

[Not] paying for winrar was a meme. Hence my post. I buy everything I use.

mikece · 2 years ago
I paid for both WinRAR and Sublime Text. Not sure if that makes me elite or silly.
cabirum · 2 years ago
In a world where tar, zip, zstd, and bzip2 exist - what are the usecases for rar?
bcks · 2 years ago
When putting together a large RAR file that's been split into smaller files, one can use PAR and PAR2 files to repair and replace damaged or missing segments.
phone8675309 · 2 years ago
You can do this with any archive format - it's not unique to RAR
diggan · 2 years ago
I think most other formats/software support things like splitting, "healing" archives and self-extracting archives by now, so the only reason I could think of is getting the "premium support" where you can quickly reach a human to help you with whatever problem you have. That might be more important for larger companies rather than individuals.
lakpan · 2 years ago
Who needs support for archives? I don’t think they’d help in the only case I can think of: corrupted files.
0x073 · 2 years ago
If you have an tar with compression and you only need one file in the middle it will takes times. Same problem exists with every compression like bzip2 that can compress only one file and requires an tar for multi file.
bastardoperator · 2 years ago
Back in the day you would hope for rar/par if you were downloading something big, like a program you couldn't afford but needed to try, I'll leave it at that.
anthk · 2 years ago
RAR has recovery options, but it's propietary sadly.
swader999 · 2 years ago
You get to sound like a pirate.
paradox460 · 2 years ago
Usenet
hnburnsy · 2 years ago
First law of u***net, is you don't talk about u***net
redjohn5 · 2 years ago
Does anyone know of other inexpensive software that supports customizable recovery records? AFAIK WinRAR is the only one.
unlog · 2 years ago
A hidden gem of WinRar is that the internal file viewer can open multi gigabit text files faster than many editors.
amlib · 2 years ago
And back in win98 and maybe xp days WinRar was a great way to escape file system access restriction imposed by the admin, you could use its internal browser to do access just about anything on the machine, even tough explorer and many other windows components wouldn't :)
wccrawford · 2 years ago
Hugged to death, I guess.

Download:

> 429 Too Many Requests

> You have sent too many requests in a given amount of time.

Edit:

Once it did download, the installer says that it can't create some files because they're "being used by another process", except I don't have winrar running. Ugh.

M95D · 2 years ago
Anyone remember UC2, ARJ?
sergiotapia · 2 years ago
Is this the most pirated piece of software of all time?

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nubinetwork · 2 years ago
The trial never ends. /meme
freedomben · 2 years ago
The best part is when it's distributed as a .rar file
neocritter · 2 years ago
Trumpet Winsock is a strong contender.