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mise_en_place · 2 years ago
It's really disappointing to see the trajectory that Brex is on. I was extremely enthusiastic about their product, they had the best business banking/credit/expense tracking in the industry. I was a very happy customer, until they decided they would only chase SV startup unicorns as their customers, and terminated my account. Brex is very much a cautionary tale for other startups.
yesimahuman · 2 years ago
They lied (or did not clearly inform their sales people) about their AWS credit promotion a few years ago which really annoyed me when they were trying to sell us. Went back to the safe embrace of SVB but I guess that didn't really play out well. As a startup I desperately want to see more credit card companies willing to offer cards to founders without ridiculous personal guarantees, so I hope they figure it out.
mise_en_place · 2 years ago
I have used SVB in the past as well, for my first startup. They were solidly OK. This is still an area ripe for disruption IMO, old Brex filled the niche but for some reason we just can't do payments and banking correctly in the US. India has UPI for instance, and even foreigners can avail themselves of this facility.
ensignavenger · 2 years ago
As an SVB customer, how bad was it? Did you have any delays or other issues accessing your money? Did service or perks change a lot after the takeover?
tennisflyi · 2 years ago
Aren’t they all?
Gabrys1 · 2 years ago
I like that they shared publicly the severance package (I missed that in a company before, the severance package was only available to the ones laid off, and you wouldn't even know if you got the same as your colleagues).

And the package itself seems alright too (and sensible, for example: the laid off can keep their laptops. What would company do with almost 300 extra laptops?). Time of the lay off also not too bad (firing people in November/December is really uncool).

All in all, not TOO bad from what I can see in the public post.

Oh, and they also said how many people first, not how many percent, which suggest they think about their human resources as actual individuals.

mrsilencedogood · 2 years ago
The laptop thing is usually less about clawing back property and more about preventing the laptop, potentially with customer PII and source code and other stuff on it, ending up sold on ebay or left laying around as a personal device to be eventually lost at an airport 3 years later, and so on. They take them back, wipe them, then either resell them to a reseller or reissue them to other employees etc.
jupp0r · 2 years ago
If they are managed devices (which I hope they are at a fintech company), it should be trivial to remote wipe them before removing MDM from them to enable personal use/resale etc.
toomuchtodo · 2 years ago
Indeed, the financial services firm I contribute at is required to remotely lock and wipe laptops when offboarding for compliance purposes, and that is somewhat consistent with the other FIs I’ve seen the inside of. How effective this is depends on an org's MDM story (people, process, controls).
jjav · 2 years ago
They just a remote wipe which surely a company that size is set up to do.
Gabrys1 · 2 years ago
Good point!
sokoloff · 2 years ago
I've been on both sides of the layoff discussions all too many times over the years. Even at the most disorganized or chaotic places, I've never seen the severance packages be anything other than a set formula.

That formula might consider location, level, tenure, and other relevant factors, but I don't think I've ever seen a case where it was "I like Alice more than Bob, so Alice gets more..."

ipaddr · 2 years ago
8 weeks plus 2 weeks per year seems light. 4 weeks for every year sounds more fair. The interview process was over 8 weeks
sokoloff · 2 years ago
Those equations intersect at 4 years of tenure. Brex was founded only 7 years ago, so most affected employees would presumably make out better with 8 + 2 * N than with 4 * N.
JCharante · 2 years ago
> 8 weeks plus 2 weeks per year seems light. 4 weeks for every year sounds more fair. The interview process was over 8 weeks

Well that would be a short severance for everybody who was hired in the last year.

ralphc · 2 years ago
Looking at that list 6 months of COBRA is short, really short. In this job-search environment your COBRA is going to run out well before you could find your next job.

When I was laid off from Oracle in 2012 I got 18 months of COBRA. That sounds must more reasonable.

myvoiceismypass · 2 years ago
It’s 6 months of subsidized COBRA where the company is contributing. Legally you are entitled to 18 months but you have to pay out of pocket entirely.
ok_dad · 2 years ago
The marketplace coverage (or straight Medicaid) is cheaper than cobra these days. Cobra was 2200 for my family, with marketplace we pay 400.
elvis10ten · 2 years ago
> Time of the lay off also not too bad (firing people in November/December is really uncool).

I don’t understand this. Why is it uncool? And why is January better?

I guess it doesn’t let people enjoy their vacations. But on the flip side, isn’t that a good thing? You can curb expenses on the vacation/holidays.

blowski · 2 years ago
There are effectively 2-3 dead weeks in which you’re not paid but can’t look for a new job. All you can do over Christmas and New Year is worry.
what_ever · 2 years ago
You can enjoy those holidays with the family instead of being stressed and sad about losing the job. The holidays being Thanksgiving and Christmas.
AmericanChopper · 2 years ago
Nobody’s hiring during that time of year.
latchkey · 2 years ago
Previously:

Brex, valued at $12.3B earlier this year, lays off 11% of staff https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33167302 (October 11, 2022 — 14 points, 1 comments)

yourstruly-br · 2 years ago
There was no lack of funding for Henrique’s posh wedding ceremony in a paradise island in Brazil back in October though. https://www.metropoles.com/colunas/fabia-oliveira/video-veja...
blitzar · 2 years ago
The founders are never part of the layoffs.
syspec · 2 years ago
Honestly looks like a slightly above average wedding - prob cheaper than getting married in the US
leosanchez · 2 years ago
Getting 403
mista2nith · 2 years ago
Why do people post stuff like this? A guy made some money and had a nice wedding.

Would you prefer he kill himself?

spandrew · 2 years ago
"Henrique and I are responsible for the decisions that led us here, and seeing so many talented folks go through this experience is never what you hope for as a founder."

~ Responsible but not accountable, got it.

juunpp · 2 years ago
Just the right kind of leadership you want in an employer.
Yhippa · 2 years ago
"As a result of this, nothing will change for Henrique and I."
sam0x17 · 2 years ago
I guess this is what happens 1.5 years later when you decide to kick all LLCs off from using your platform and they all go to use your competitors instead
blast · 2 years ago
What happened there?
sam0x17 · 2 years ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31772847

source: was one of the affected LLCs. Went to Mercury and never looked back!

vegancap · 2 years ago
Tone of this is just awful, reads like he's saying they've laid off a bunch of people who were slowing us down, and sort of ends it by saying how excited he is about the business now they've been let go...
sam0x17 · 2 years ago
That's venture capital for you..
mrnobody_67 · 2 years ago
Company was burning $17m per month with less than $300m in revenue... while growing at a slower rate than ramp.com . simply unsustainable.
eterm · 2 years ago
What am I not understanding about your comment, 300m is 25m per month, so that sounds very profitable?
e1g · 2 years ago
They spend every cent of the revenue they made AND the extra $17m each month.
umeshunni · 2 years ago
Their spend is $42m per month

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chatmasta · 2 years ago
Is there some relevance in the comparison to ramp.com or were you just mentioning it as an example?
dalyons · 2 years ago
its effectively their competitor