This veiled tweet stuff is just drama queens being dramatic for the sake of it at this point.
I care what happens to openAI … but at this point I give literally zero fucks what people are tweeting and what it may / may not / according some insider / outsider / person close to it who renames nameless might mean or not mean.
Sam tweeting “I <3 openAI” is not HN news worthy content.
I’m with you. This is starting to feel like that “Friendship ended with Mudasir” meme.
These are the people leading the AI revolution? The thing that could potentially upend our entire civilization? A bunch of ninnying brats kicking each other out of a club? Oy vey. We’re fucked.
There is this strange online phenomenon where people seek out content they dont like and then get bothered that it exists instead of just not paying attention.
This is how the Livejournal generation communicates. We don't have press releases or proper sit down board meetings. To communicate about a job loss or job gain we must have feelings and whatever music we are listening to right now.
> Update, 5:35PM PT: A source close to Altman says the board had agreed in principle to resign and to allow Altman and Brockman to return, but has since waffled — missing a key 5PM PT deadline by which many OpenAI staffers were set to resign. If Altman decides to leave and start a new company, those staffers would assuredly go with him.
> Altman holding talks with the company just a day after he was ousted indicates that OpenAI is in a state of free-fall without him. Hours after he was axed, Greg Brockman, OpenAI’s president and former board chairman, resigned, and the two have been talking to friends and investors about starting another company. A string of senior researchers also resigned on Friday, and people close to OpenAI say more departures are in the works.
Maybe a deal actually went through? Or he’s referring to the resignations?
> Altman holding talks with the company just a day after he was ousted indicates that OpenAI is in a state of free-fall without him.
OTOH, "sources close to Altman" saying that that is happening to the media just says that people close to Altman (quite likely acting as proxies for Altman) want it to be seen that way.
> Maybe a deal actually went through?
Or maybe he is expressing his positive feelings for the team in the hope of provoking some reciprocation from OpenAI workers to exert pressure on the board to make the thing his camp is saying is happening actually happen, or, if negotiations are actually happening, to make them more likely to be resolved in his favor.
No, he's just publicly making it clear how much support he has internally. (And to be fair, I do believe that's how he feels, of course – he's probably appreciative of everyone backing him.)
If there was a deal, he wouldn't have tweeted it this way.
Agreed. The board resigning after all this would seem pointless if not completely bewildering. Why would they do that after removing him? The board has no financial interest in the company, so what power does Altman have?
Also, I see this Tweet by Altman:
> if i start going off, the openai board should go after me for the full value of my shares
> I just don’t see a reason as to why the board would resign
The golden rule. The people with the gold make the rules, and Microsoft has poured mountains of capital into the company. For their board to make an extremely consequential move like they did without consulting their benefactors was the height of hubris.
Merely being forced to resign would be merciful, I half expect Satya to find some way to have them thrown in prison.
I don't think it's narcissistic, but it's not necessarily just about supporting them. It's a maneuver/test/demonstration of where he stands with various employees. It gives him information and sends a signal about his standing with OpenAI staff.
So many key employees are defecting, this Tweet could be interpreted as his support of the people siding with him over the good of the company, which would be narcissistic if the board had a valid reason for their decision. But all that's speculative.
Really, sort yourselves out.
This veiled tweet stuff is just drama queens being dramatic for the sake of it at this point.
I care what happens to openAI … but at this point I give literally zero fucks what people are tweeting and what it may / may not / according some insider / outsider / person close to it who renames nameless might mean or not mean.
Sam tweeting “I <3 openAI” is not HN news worthy content.
These are the people leading the AI revolution? The thing that could potentially upend our entire civilization? A bunch of ninnying brats kicking each other out of a club? Oy vey. We’re fucked.
https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/friendship-ended-with-mud...
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> Update, 5:35PM PT: A source close to Altman says the board had agreed in principle to resign and to allow Altman and Brockman to return, but has since waffled — missing a key 5PM PT deadline by which many OpenAI staffers were set to resign. If Altman decides to leave and start a new company, those staffers would assuredly go with him.
> Altman holding talks with the company just a day after he was ousted indicates that OpenAI is in a state of free-fall without him. Hours after he was axed, Greg Brockman, OpenAI’s president and former board chairman, resigned, and the two have been talking to friends and investors about starting another company. A string of senior researchers also resigned on Friday, and people close to OpenAI say more departures are in the works.
Maybe a deal actually went through? Or he’s referring to the resignations?
OTOH, "sources close to Altman" saying that that is happening to the media just says that people close to Altman (quite likely acting as proxies for Altman) want it to be seen that way.
> Maybe a deal actually went through?
Or maybe he is expressing his positive feelings for the team in the hope of provoking some reciprocation from OpenAI workers to exert pressure on the board to make the thing his camp is saying is happening actually happen, or, if negotiations are actually happening, to make them more likely to be resolved in his favor.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-18/openai-bo...
If there was a deal, he wouldn't have tweeted it this way.
Who knows. But definitely a power move to turn up the heat to get good wills from the crowd
But, what do I, or anyone except the people involved, know.
OTOH, the tweet sounds/read weird. Is he trying to recruit folks for his next venture.
Also, I see this Tweet by Altman:
> if i start going off, the openai board should go after me for the full value of my shares
What does that mean?
The golden rule. The people with the gold make the rules, and Microsoft has poured mountains of capital into the company. For their board to make an extremely consequential move like they did without consulting their benefactors was the height of hubris.
Merely being forced to resign would be merciful, I half expect Satya to find some way to have them thrown in prison.
https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1726100488947679304
https://twitter.com/bradlightcap
Counted 52 OpenAI employees supporting @sama with more rolling in by the minute
https://twitter.com/FreddieRaynolds/status/17261100249827369...
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If enough yeses at openai, sama has plenty of leverage for coming back or starting up.
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