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rob74 · 2 years ago
> you play on the doughnut itself and then the fans are in the doughnut hole. And then, well, where do the drums go? Then the concept of the four drum kits — one drum kit in each of the four different directions — came up, and then it sort of went from there.

Er, how does this work in a stadium? Some stadium concerts already have premium prices for the area closer to the stage, but the others can at least see the same thing, albeit from further away. If the "donut hole" is the premium area, what do the people outside the donut get to see? Guess I'll have to wait for a video of this. But this whole "360° stage" thing smacks of "using the stadium capacity as efficiently as possible to make moar money"...

altacc · 2 years ago
I've been to a stadium concert with a similar doughnut layout and the main problem was that at all times at least half the audience is looking at a band member's back, not their face. You get some connection by being close but that doesn't last when they walk over to the other side of the stage. For what connection you can get in a stadium gig I prefer to see people's front, plus a big screen, not the musicians' backs just a bit closer.
naikrovek · 2 years ago
> You get some connection by being close

hold up - is this why people go to concerts? because they think they're connecting on some level with the band?

I've been to a few small concerts and not once was I seeking, or did I feel, any connection of any kind.

I may be too autistic or ADHD to understand concerts, I guess. I didn't like the few I went to and I won't go to one again. the music sounds far better at home and I get to control the volume.

vibrio · 2 years ago
I’m with you on this analysis, I’m good going see a local band at a club with 150 others. It’s a different objective and experience, but stadium shows seem so sterile.
ageitgey · 2 years ago
There's some videos up:

https://youtu.be/yY4w-bIH3X4

planede · 2 years ago
Wow, the giant beach balls are just horrible.
trilbyglens · 2 years ago
I mean, this is Metallica. Goes without saying.
soupfordummies · 2 years ago
If you think this kind of thing is cool, Phish just played seven shows in a row at Madison Square Garden without repeating a single song!

King Gizzard does this kind of thing of too and it's awesome. It's sometimes kind of a bummer if you go see a large act multiple times and it's pretty much the same set.

jpnc · 2 years ago
I remember reading Mike Portnoy doing that for Dream Theater while he was in the band (not sure if they still do it). Not just mixing up the set list for the venue repeats but also taking into account that some fans like to go to neighboring venues and wanted to keep it fresh for them too.
niek_pas · 2 years ago
I was reminded of that too. I’m fairly certain they stopped doing that when Portnoy left.
ainiriand · 2 years ago
As much hate as Lars gets he is a big part of Metallica's success.
Xenoamorphous · 2 years ago
Is it because of the Napster thing? Or there's more to it.
xinayder · 2 years ago
This video explains it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjbAKqREg9g

the meme is that he's a bad drummer, but even Hetfield said that he thought of kicking Lars before but realized later that he's an essential part of the band, after all, he's the one that founded the band - if it weren't for him putting out an ad on a newspaper in the US, Metallica might've not existed.

he's not a great drummer, but he's an essential part of the band, remove him and the band is no longer the same. I'd say he keeps the band together.

ChrisMarshallNY · 2 years ago
Heh. A few of us might remember Camp Chaos’ “Metallicops” vids.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LeKX2bNP7QM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mb_jLAisPzk

rusk · 2 years ago
That’s why he’s a big part of their success. He understands business. He wasn’t going to stand by and watch his legacy squandered by hippies.
sornaensis · 2 years ago
If you have any musician friends who are into metal, ask them what they think of Lars as a drummer. :)
conradfr · 2 years ago
It's not as elaborate as what Metallica does but the Red Hot Chili Peppers change their setlist every show, Anthony Kiedis handwrites them before the show.
mike503 · 2 years ago
If only they'd play Higher Ground. I've seen them multiple times now in different locations and had different setlists (mostly; I found that they do resemble each other a lot) but still not that one damn song!
conradfr · 2 years ago
Doesn't seem to be Frusciante favorite song ;)

https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/red-hot-chili-peppers-13d...

bigtex · 2 years ago
To celebrate this new tour fans should watch their music videos on YouTube with ad block enabled. RIP Napster.