The behavior of Reddit's management has inspired me to login through the series of accounts I have created over the years and delete all content I had contributed to. Doesn't management realize they are dependent on people like us to create content to generate value for the website?
>>I know I’m focusing a lot on that, but that’s where a lot of the protests in the community are focused. People appear to really love these apps. And, apparently, they think Reddit itself is not offering the experience they’re looking for. People talk about leaving the platform because they can’t use these apps. So if Reddit is going to shut down these apps, you’re going to lose people who loved Reddit, and that still doesn’t quite make sense. So I guess I’m wondering why hasn’t there been...
>90-plus percent of Reddit users are on our platform, contributing, and are monetized either through ads or Reddit Premium. Why would we subsidize this small group? Why would we effectively pay them to use Reddit but not everybody else who also contributes to Reddit? Does that make sense?
>These people who are mad, they’re mad because they used to get something for free, and now it’s going to be not free. And that free comes at the expense of our other users and our business. That’s what this is about. It can’t be free.
I read the article and Huffman seems quite reasonable. Basically that they are asking profit making apps like Apollo to cover server costs, which seems not ridiculous if Reddit is loss making and Apollo profit making. I get the impression that some people who say they don't like corporate doublespeak are upset because Huffman just says pay or move on instead of doing the doublespeak. My biases - I did his python course and thought he seemed ok, also I use old reddit on the laptop and it works fine.
You'll want to destructively edit them, because apparently Reddit has recently started removing soft delete flags on some content, and it's not clear to people why besides possibly this blackout.
It's not clear if Reddit has post history to rollback destructive edits.
A substantial portion of my destructive edits (that were followed by deletion) appear to have now been rolled back, so it appears they do have the ability. These were recently deleted, however; there may be a time limit based on edit time.
This is false. Feel free to link to your source which will inevitably turn out to be someone who doesn't understand that the problem was actually in their deletion script or their understanding of it.
I have deleted all my comments and posts once. The way I did it required a lot of clicks, and I only had <100 things to delete. I couldnt find a better way to do it and neither will the average reddit user who has 1000s of comments.
I would question the monetization value of a user visiting reddit to read a 4 year old post about the best water pump, vs. "normie" users just flipping through their front page
These investors are trying to make back 1.3 BILLION dollars sunk into a social network in the top 10 websites visited in the US that can't make money, they're rightfully trying to go full facebook/instagram/normie. What if I told you old.reddit only accounts for 10% or less of web users. That people are actually able to browse new reddit (I personally can't).
tl;dr: For the content they're looking for, no they dont need someone like you who's deleting old posts they don't care about
Search engines refer people to those old threads. Users who care enough and are tech savvy enough to delete their post histories are more likely to have made higher quality comments in the past answering tech support questions, reviewing products, etc. Those are the old threads that appear in search results and potentially draw in new users.
Having old reddit history show up repeatedly in your search results is part of what creates perceived value to get on the treadmill and follow things happening now.
I don't actually see that as something I should care about. My interest in chatting online on a forum isn't that my convo is available to everyone for eternity.
I wouldn't even grant that access to old posts is a particularly useful part of a community. Even on HN it doesn't impact my day to day except to laugh at that dropbox rsync guy once a year.
Let's be honest: you're hurting both but the latter will find other ways to hold the information in a way which may not be bound to a corporation led by a lying weasel.
That’s the point. Reddit turned on the community. So people want to remove their contributions to the community. If everyone did so there’d be nothing left.
Hopefully Reddit will exercise the prerogative to hit the undelete key. The idea that forum posts belong to the author in perpetuity is a weird mental hangup; forum posts are a conversation and after a certain grace period, contributors should not have the right to memory-hole the past.
How long until the adults at Conde Nast step in and stop the madness? This whole thing is:
1. Doing long term damage to search position for Reddit content. Results, short and long term reduction in SEO generated traffic, fewer ad clicks, lower revenue, and a loss in valuation. Also, paying to get traffic will cut into margin, further reducing valuation.
2. Causing users to delete their accounts, lowering active user counts, and cutting Reddit's valuation.
3. Forcing people doing work for free to stop, meaning that Reddit will have to spend money to either hire or recruit and train more free moderators, resulting in increased operating costs, thus reducing profit margins, resulting in a lower valuation.
4. If it is true that management at Reddit is undeleting deleted users and accounts, they may be creating a situation where they claim they have more users than they do. Because this is the result of management's actions, it could be viewed negatively by regulators and law enforcement.
What is going on needs to be stopped. It's insane.
1) Spez is right, this is a tempest in a teapot that hasn't (yet) had a big impact on traffic, and won't once they seize control of the rebelling subreddits. A vocal minority cares of the public about the impact on the community, but stakeholders realize the business will be fine.
2) Spez is wrong, and is comfortable misrepresenting the situation to the public at minimum. Maybe he misrepresents it to internal stakeholders too. The situation will appear under control right up until the moment the wheels fly off.
Could be a little of column A, a little of column B.
Even if he's "right" what "Spez" has done here is pure idiocy.
Even if Reddit comes out of this largely unharmed, why did they even take the risk? Why didn't they just incrementally increase API pricing or implement policies that slowly kill off 3rd party apps one at a time? What he's doing is simply bad from a strategical perspective.
But further, this event has put me off ever wanting to invest in Reddit post-IPO. "Spez" seems approaching conflict like a child in an argument with their parents might. Even if you like Reddit's product I don't know how anyone in their right mind would invest in a company where a child is calling all the shots. The dude edits comments to pwn people he doesn't like, he lies, he's comes off as arrogant and entitled. It's just so unprofessional.
If anyone else was in charge I'd have assumed they wanted the controversy.
If #1 were true, literally _anyone_ in spez's position would shut up and get on with things. The fact is that he initially did that — and then as the week has gone on, he has begun giving more and more unhinged interviews with the press. He's not saying "it blew over", he's blaming anyone and everyone he can think of, making objectively false statements about history and his own actions, and making overt threats to his perceived enemies.
It is very plainly having a much bigger impact than spez anticipated.
(Don't shoot the messenger! Just adding some objective data amid the flames.)
Roughly half of the biggest subreddits went dark. And almost all of them are back (r/funny, r/gaming, r/aww, r/todayilearned, /r/pics, etc)
AFAIK the only huge holdouts are r/videos and r/music.
Mods and some users have been very vocal...but there's a quieter, larger group that is fine with the official app and just wants a place to post.
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EDIT: My bad. r/aww, r/gaming, and r/pics have disabled new posts.
Plenty of others...r/funny, r/askscience, r/earthporn, r/explainlikeimfive, r/food, r/gadgets, r/nottheonion, r/space, r/sports went dark and are now back.
Total affected subscriber count has fallen ~60% [1] since the peak.
FWIW, I think #2 is true as well. This is by no means a inconsequential disruption. But it's also far from "the death of Reddit."
Regarding 1: I don't believe the company saying this at all.
My $DayJob has been running Reddit Ads campaigns for the last couple months. Starting Monday we saw a ~60% drop in impressions. They have not come back up yet, they've continued to decline all week.
What Spez is wrong about is the "opportunity cost" of third party apps that he keeps citing as reason for his "business decision." He has no basis to assume that the same people who use third party apps will use the official reddit app, or ever spend any money on reddit.
It mostly likely a combination. This could blow over with the correct PR campaign. Spez idiocy is making this way worse than it should have been and risking everything.
If Reddit just came out and said they can’t support third party apps. They are not profitable and they need to focus on their ad business. Third party undermine the business.
Inside they killed third party apps, while lying about it. They keep doubling down on this passive aggressive point of view.
This is making the community and mods realize that they are providing all the value and not getting any of the benefit. This is becoming much bigger than about third party apps.
My theory: Reddit wants total control over the UI, the current one (as bad as it is) supports dangerous levels of discussion and collective cognition, and having the masses thinking for/between themselves is rarely a good idea if one is in the business of maintaining an illusory political regime. Just think of how much of reality is manufactured and distributed among nodes on this single platform.
I don't know how much sway Conde Nast has. Reddit spun out in 2011, and since then has raised about $1.25bn (!!) dollars.
So I doubt Conde Nast has much say, if any, at this point.... and while I dislike everything spez is doing, I imagine he has the full backing of investors looking to IPO soon.
$300 million of that was raised against a $3 billion valuation, and another $700 million against a $10 billion valuation. All in all fairly little dilution for Conde Nast / Advance Publications.
Reddit is an independent subsidiary of Advanced Publications, a holding company. There are no adults in the "running the business" room. There is a BoD though.
But everyone invested is crazy rich and doesn't have time to waste micromanaging a $5-$50M investment.
With how hard they're doubling down, I'm beginning to wonder if their financial situation is just so bad that they have no other option than to keep doubling down and hope the IPO works out.
Even if Condé Nast has any influence over the situation, do you really think the "adults" there know anything about the situation beyond the status reports they're getting from Reddit leadership?
> If it is true that management at Reddit is undeleting deleted users and accounts, they may be creating a situation where they claim they have more users than they do. Because this is the result of management's actions, it could be viewed negatively by regulators and law enforcement.
Woah. Ianal but that sounds like a gdpr nightmere. Are they doing it to european accounts too?
>4. If it is true that management at Reddit is undeleting deleted users and accounts,
Haven't heard about accounts, but the HN thread about comments being undeleted had multiple HN comments confirming that their own comments they had scrubbed had been reverted
>How long until the adults at Conde Nast step in and stop the madness?
The company is bleeding cash. There's a good case to be made that this is the only way to make it stop bleeding cash. So either this needs to work, or the company will die anyway.
It’s a dinosaur company with a dinosaur board. Other than the CEO of YC every other single member of the board is some aging boomer who has probably never used Reddit 2 days in a row
I feel bad for spez at this point. We obviously are seeing what he deems as the boards request of him. We have no idea what he really feels about everything going on
This seems like it's implicitly painting a false dichotomy between an implied autonomous Spez that is causing damage and a subservient Spez that is just a name attached to board action. How about this, if Spez is being asked to do stupid things by the board, he's failing extraordinarily to even cushion them with PR, which is the actual least he can do.
I'm not sure who you mean, but if it's sama, he's no longer the CEO of YC nor is he on the board anymore. Michael Seibel seems to still be on the board, but he's no longer the CEO of YC.
It's just upset nerds on the internet review bombing the app because they're raging at their issue of the week, it's not really more complex than that IMO.
I don't see much of an issue with them astroturfing the site when it first launched in 2005. Content begets content so something needs to get the ball rolling.
I don't think it's so much and issue as it's pretty clear evidence that the current leadership is capable and comfortable with using that tactic. If you told me Jamie Dimon had personally sanctioned fake reviews for the JPMorgan app, I'd tell you to fuck off, there's no way that man would know how to do that. If you tell me the /u/spaz is doing it himself, I'd roll my eyes and say obviously.
Why is Aaron Swartz not given co-founder status in this article? I'm not saying he was part of this review faking allegedly going on, just odd he's memory holed.
Because he wasn't a co-founder, he came in later and got a co-founder title retroactively for reasons. You can tell the story either way and there's nothing nefarious about failing to mention Swartz, who is not at high risk of being forgotten.
I upvoted something this morning and got an immediate "Are you enjoying Reddit?" popup that was a gateway to leave a review, I am curious if that is related.
This and apps sending advertisements in push notifications are the two things that grind my gears about the iOS experience. The latter is already against the TOS as far as I’m aware but apparently never enforced since basically any food delivery app out there violates it.
I’m astonished that Apple isn’t more proactive on those. Underwhelming apps not being downvoted and pushing people to use browser interactions will kill their ecosystem more surely than fraud.
Then again, the fiasco of trying to find the ChatGPT OpenAI app doesn’t sound like they care enough about that platform.
Probably that’s it. So apple heavily rate limits this pop up(IIRC, an app can ask for a review 3 times in 365 days), it’s possible that they are spending their allowance to counter for the negative reviews that they are likely receiving right now.
The developer can't know if a dialog is displayed, so it's a standard practice to time these strategically but if you like you can spend it in a row.
I don't know why Android and iOS allow apps to nag people to rate them. Even worse is, they have also shipped SDKs to allow to directly rate the app without leaving it at all. One recent pattern I've also noticed is apps asking you to "enable" notifications after you've blocked them.
Reddit has a lack of machine learning and infra investment to justify any sort of high IPO price, so their management hired ex Meta and Twitter employees and trying to figure out how to make more of what they have so they can go back to Wall Street with a stronger message during these stricter economic times where money is not raining from the sky like a few years ago. If Wall Street was smart they would wonder why invest in a platform that has barely evolved the format of discussion from threads and message board posts even though they had 18 years to do it. They should also consider the fact that conditions are ripe for disruption. Overall investing in Reddit right now as both an investor and a user seems very dangerous.
IMO, Reddit is valuable. It has the necessary scale in terms of footfall or eyeballs [whatever metric is appropriate]. Where they have failed is to evolve and deliver on customer promises. Not having sufficient mod tools, suboptimal experience on official apps are just few issues that get the majority of limelight. Inability to build enterprise products or tiered data API for businesses and education are also missing, that they could have leveraged.
If eyeballs were that important advertisers would be banging down their doors to place ads. Reddit's problem is that it's full of anonymous people that are hard to reach with targeted advertising.
unfortunately you’re not their target user/customer. Many people, that aren’t the HN crowd, are happy with swiping over loads of vids/photos in the app, happily generating advertising revenue. That’s where the money is now. Pivot the younger userbase to be some sort of TikTok clone etc. That is their aim. Get the advertising CPM.
I'm amazed at how unprofessional the management's reaction has been to the blackout. They could've waited a couple of weeks for the controversy to die down. Instead they further escalated the issue and are now making utterly nonsensical decisions like undeleting people's entire posting histories and now things like this [if this isn't a false flag]. What are they thinking?
I have avoided reddit for a couple of years now because I found the unpleasantness of it it was greater than any value I got from it. But I'd still follow links to specific reddit entries when discussions brought them up (on HN, for example).
But, purely because of Reddit's (and especially the CEO's) behavior around this issue, Reddit now occupies the same position for me that Twitter does: I'm not even following occasional links to it. It's radioactive to me. (Musk fans: I treated twitter this way before Musk bought it, it's unrelated to him.)
Not that this will affect Reddit in any way, but it's better for my own well-being.
They never really have. They add features nobody wants all the time instead of making changes the community asks about for years. Who wanted live streaming or instant messaging on Reddit? Spez has edited users’ comments in the past as well.
Basically Reddit the company is incompetent for failing to understand their product and run by a child.
Reddit was always doomed - it's kind of a surprise it's lasted as long as it did. They call themselves the "front page of the internet" and that's what they've always wanted to be. But to be that, they have to be _completely_ open. No banning subreddits. No banning users. No deleting comments. And for the most part, that's what they were when they started (and I loved it back then). But that's not just not workable as a business model, it's not workable even if there was no cost involved, it invites too much blowback. The only reason we ever got the internet we have (or had, anyway...) was because it was completely decentralized, not in any one person's or organizations hands, and there was nobody to blame for "the whole thing" rather than one part of it.
Instant messaging? Yeah, not sure about that, but reddit was really lacking there.
About live threads: the existing static threads were annoying to use for ongoing sport events for example. So I did like the idea, but the implementation was poor.
It would have been so easy for them to deescalate that they must think there's something to gain from it, they can't be that incompetent right?
It'll be interesting to see if the current outrage machine actually has any long term effect or if next year things will just be business as usual at Reddit.
The UI team who designed this atrocity of a web app needs to be made public and shamed and the executives who signed off on it need to be fired and never allowed to work in the industry again.
Yeahhhh I don’t think it’s engineers fault. Reddit used to be gorgeous. It’s about showing more ads, measuring engagements, fitting different (more casual) usecases as validated by A/B tests, etc. “the engineers and designers are just dumb” is intellectually lazy IMO, with no offense intended :)
Yes and no. The engineers and designers probably are dumb, but they were specifically hired by management to engineer and design management's vision. They would not have been hired if they did not share management's vision.
If they have better taste, then they should quit. I bet lots have, but they don't work at Reddit anymore.
If what youre saying is true
..implementing dark patterns to increase ad sales and user engagement over quality ui, content, and a historical beloved ui is a big middle finger to their users.
I wouldn't necessarily shame the developers and designers that were just doing what the PM/leadership at Reddit told them to do while getting paid to do so. It's a job - nothing more.
Yeah that's why I didn't mention developers. I know they're just doing what they are supposed to and I've been there spitting out shitty code for management.
This app monstrosity reeks of nepotism driven management or friend driven management. No UI team in their right mind would create something like this
Go to the popular third-party apps that are getting killed and scroll past the RIP messages for latest reviews and you will see a lot of one word 5-star reviews. Are those suspicious as well? No, that's just what people do.
Admittedly I included reviews like "Great app" and "Good. " but if we're strictly going on one word only:
"Awesome."
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"Great!"
"Perfect"
"Works"
"Great"
"Perfect"
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Not sure why that's a requirement though. Isn't the point that the reviews are low effort or is one word exactly indicative of something? If I bought fake reviews I would expect a tiny bit higher standard than that.
Edit: HN stripping emojis but they were thumb ups.
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>>I know I’m focusing a lot on that, but that’s where a lot of the protests in the community are focused. People appear to really love these apps. And, apparently, they think Reddit itself is not offering the experience they’re looking for. People talk about leaving the platform because they can’t use these apps. So if Reddit is going to shut down these apps, you’re going to lose people who loved Reddit, and that still doesn’t quite make sense. So I guess I’m wondering why hasn’t there been...
>90-plus percent of Reddit users are on our platform, contributing, and are monetized either through ads or Reddit Premium. Why would we subsidize this small group? Why would we effectively pay them to use Reddit but not everybody else who also contributes to Reddit? Does that make sense?
>These people who are mad, they’re mad because they used to get something for free, and now it’s going to be not free. And that free comes at the expense of our other users and our business. That’s what this is about. It can’t be free.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23762868/reddit-ceo-steve...
The entire article is just so bizarre and needlessly hostile that I'm amazed they're allowing him to do interviews.
Still appreciate that you posted this, as otherwise I would never have seen it. Thank you!
It's not clear if Reddit has post history to rollback destructive edits.
https://github.com/x89/Shreddit
They don't deserve any of it. Hope this puts and end to the site and their greed
These investors are trying to make back 1.3 BILLION dollars sunk into a social network in the top 10 websites visited in the US that can't make money, they're rightfully trying to go full facebook/instagram/normie. What if I told you old.reddit only accounts for 10% or less of web users. That people are actually able to browse new reddit (I personally can't).
tl;dr: For the content they're looking for, no they dont need someone like you who's deleting old posts they don't care about
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I wouldn't even grant that access to old posts is a particularly useful part of a community. Even on HN it doesn't impact my day to day except to laugh at that dropbox rsync guy once a year.
u/spez needs to be removed as CEO.
"This content was removed by the user in protest of Reddit's draconian actions toward third party developers."
1. Doing long term damage to search position for Reddit content. Results, short and long term reduction in SEO generated traffic, fewer ad clicks, lower revenue, and a loss in valuation. Also, paying to get traffic will cut into margin, further reducing valuation.
2. Causing users to delete their accounts, lowering active user counts, and cutting Reddit's valuation.
3. Forcing people doing work for free to stop, meaning that Reddit will have to spend money to either hire or recruit and train more free moderators, resulting in increased operating costs, thus reducing profit margins, resulting in a lower valuation.
4. If it is true that management at Reddit is undeleting deleted users and accounts, they may be creating a situation where they claim they have more users than they do. Because this is the result of management's actions, it could be viewed negatively by regulators and law enforcement.
What is going on needs to be stopped. It's insane.
1) Spez is right, this is a tempest in a teapot that hasn't (yet) had a big impact on traffic, and won't once they seize control of the rebelling subreddits. A vocal minority cares of the public about the impact on the community, but stakeholders realize the business will be fine.
2) Spez is wrong, and is comfortable misrepresenting the situation to the public at minimum. Maybe he misrepresents it to internal stakeholders too. The situation will appear under control right up until the moment the wheels fly off.
Could be a little of column A, a little of column B.
Even if he's "right" what "Spez" has done here is pure idiocy.
Even if Reddit comes out of this largely unharmed, why did they even take the risk? Why didn't they just incrementally increase API pricing or implement policies that slowly kill off 3rd party apps one at a time? What he's doing is simply bad from a strategical perspective.
But further, this event has put me off ever wanting to invest in Reddit post-IPO. "Spez" seems approaching conflict like a child in an argument with their parents might. Even if you like Reddit's product I don't know how anyone in their right mind would invest in a company where a child is calling all the shots. The dude edits comments to pwn people he doesn't like, he lies, he's comes off as arrogant and entitled. It's just so unprofessional.
If anyone else was in charge I'd have assumed they wanted the controversy.
It is very plainly having a much bigger impact than spez anticipated.
(Don't shoot the messenger! Just adding some objective data amid the flames.)
Roughly half of the biggest subreddits went dark. And almost all of them are back (r/funny, r/gaming, r/aww, r/todayilearned, /r/pics, etc)
AFAIK the only huge holdouts are r/videos and r/music.
Mods and some users have been very vocal...but there's a quieter, larger group that is fine with the official app and just wants a place to post.
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EDIT: My bad. r/aww, r/gaming, and r/pics have disabled new posts.
Plenty of others...r/funny, r/askscience, r/earthporn, r/explainlikeimfive, r/food, r/gadgets, r/nottheonion, r/space, r/sports went dark and are now back.
Total affected subscriber count has fallen ~60% [1] since the peak.
FWIW, I think #2 is true as well. This is by no means a inconsequential disruption. But it's also far from "the death of Reddit."
[1] https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/
My $DayJob has been running Reddit Ads campaigns for the last couple months. Starting Monday we saw a ~60% drop in impressions. They have not come back up yet, they've continued to decline all week.
If Reddit just came out and said they can’t support third party apps. They are not profitable and they need to focus on their ad business. Third party undermine the business.
Inside they killed third party apps, while lying about it. They keep doubling down on this passive aggressive point of view.
This is making the community and mods realize that they are providing all the value and not getting any of the benefit. This is becoming much bigger than about third party apps.
I don't know if he's right or wrong, but it's pretty clear that he's comfortable misrepresenting things to the public.
So I doubt Conde Nast has much say, if any, at this point.... and while I dislike everything spez is doing, I imagine he has the full backing of investors looking to IPO soon.
> "Advance Publications, which owns Ars Technica parent Condé Nast, is the largest shareholder in Reddit."
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/06/the-reddit-protests-...
(That article is a day old now, and I still don't think it includes everything that's happened late this week.)
They're hell-bent on getting everyone onto new Reddit (Reddit 2.0).
Hopefully this is the move that kills Reddit, and we get something even better to take its place.
But everyone invested is crazy rich and doesn't have time to waste micromanaging a $5-$50M investment.
Woah. Ianal but that sounds like a gdpr nightmere. Are they doing it to european accounts too?
Haven't heard about accounts, but the HN thread about comments being undeleted had multiple HN comments confirming that their own comments they had scrubbed had been reverted
The company is bleeding cash. There's a good case to be made that this is the only way to make it stop bleeding cash. So either this needs to work, or the company will die anyway.
I feel bad for spez at this point. We obviously are seeing what he deems as the boards request of him. We have no idea what he really feels about everything going on
"My bank balance is going to look so good once we finally IPO", probably.
Idk he's made his views quite clear at this point. Although he may edit them and everyone else's comments again.
Also Conde Nast hasn't owned reddit for a while, they became an independent subsidiary of Conde Nast's parent company Advance Publications.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/reddi...
https://twitter.com/alexisohanian/status/93374221685755904
For a while, you'd get these "Enjoying app?" popups where yes -> "Post a review!" and no -> "Wad up your feedback and throw it in this trash can"
They disappeared for like 5 years, but they've been back in force recently
Then again, the fiasco of trying to find the ChatGPT OpenAI app doesn’t sound like they care enough about that platform.
You have to do it in the app/play store directly as they usually highjack non 5-star ratings in-app.
The developer can't know if a dialog is displayed, so it's a standard practice to time these strategically but if you like you can spend it in a row.
But, purely because of Reddit's (and especially the CEO's) behavior around this issue, Reddit now occupies the same position for me that Twitter does: I'm not even following occasional links to it. It's radioactive to me. (Musk fans: I treated twitter this way before Musk bought it, it's unrelated to him.)
Not that this will affect Reddit in any way, but it's better for my own well-being.
They never really have. They add features nobody wants all the time instead of making changes the community asks about for years. Who wanted live streaming or instant messaging on Reddit? Spez has edited users’ comments in the past as well.
Basically Reddit the company is incompetent for failing to understand their product and run by a child.
About live threads: the existing static threads were annoying to use for ongoing sport events for example. So I did like the idea, but the implementation was poor.
It'll be interesting to see if the current outrage machine actually has any long term effect or if next year things will just be business as usual at Reddit.
If they have better taste, then they should quit. I bet lots have, but they don't work at Reddit anymore.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lLcpcytUnWU
Designers though..absolutely.
If what youre saying is true ..implementing dark patterns to increase ad sales and user engagement over quality ui, content, and a historical beloved ui is a big middle finger to their users.
All involved should be made public and shamed.
This app monstrosity reeks of nepotism driven management or friend driven management. No UI team in their right mind would create something like this
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andrewshu....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.laurenceda...
I think it's frivolous that people in that thread (and here) take this at face value.
0(literally zero, not "few") one word 5-star reviews found.
You might want to clarify what you actually meant.
Admittedly I included reviews like "Great app" and "Good. " but if we're strictly going on one word only:
"Awesome."
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"Great!"
"Perfect"
"Works"
"Great"
"Perfect"
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Not sure why that's a requirement though. Isn't the point that the reviews are low effort or is one word exactly indicative of something? If I bought fake reviews I would expect a tiny bit higher standard than that.
Edit: HN stripping emojis but they were thumb ups.
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