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xingped · 3 years ago
I always got a chuckle out of the joke that StackOverflow devs must be the best devs because when StackOverflow goes down, they don't have StackOverflow to look at for answers, haha.
digitalsushi · 3 years ago
I believe a coffee maker is humankind's finest engineering, then: A machine that can be used by a person who hasn't had coffee.
slowmovintarget · 3 years ago
"Those who most need coffee are the least qualified to brew it." -- me, after forgetting to put the pot under the filter when attempting to make coffee in the office.
telotortium · 3 years ago
That was also a joke at Google
111111IIIIIII · 3 years ago
Google might make your resume look better, but jokes don't work like that.
bouke · 3 years ago
Or are they at serious risk of not being able to bring it back online again? All the solutions are offline now as well…
charcircuit · 3 years ago
There are mirrors and offline archives of the site.
hyperliner · 3 years ago
You just made me spray my laptop with coffee. Such a good one!
Andugal · 3 years ago
A status page that is down at the same time as the real website is not a good status page...
underlines · 3 years ago
It makes perfect sense:

Create a static status page on yourserver.com/status.html and write:

If you can't read this, it means the status of yourserver.com is: DOWN

TeMPOraL · 3 years ago
DNS should have a mechanism for designating failover IPs, so you could e.g. host a static HTML saying "it's down" on some CDN as far as possible topologically from the rest of your network, so it displays when your status page is down too.

However, status pages are first and foremost marketing tools, so I wouldn't expect anyone setting such mechanism up.

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Animats · 3 years ago
Use another site for the status page, and frame or iframe the on-site status page. If the frame doesn't load, it means the server is down.
sigwinch28 · 3 years ago
The pinned tweet for @StackStatus starts "With our recent status page improvements".

https://twitter.com/StackStatus/status/1575844926884962305?s...

The old status page https://stackstatus.tumblr.com is up, but not updated.

nayuki · 3 years ago
Yeah. There was someone a few years ago who said something like, "If your website doesn't have a status page, it does have one on Twitter". Wish I could find the quote source.
rjmunro · 3 years ago
They have a twitter account for status updates, and that's not been updated since September: https://twitter.com/stackstatus
brookst · 3 years ago
The medium is the message.
digitallyfree · 3 years ago
Likely it's hosted on the same infrastructure. The general recommendation is to host the status page on different provider so it's more likely to stay up.
belter · 3 years ago
Maybe the Status page is down and the site is up? :-)
PaulHoule · 3 years ago
I was trying to use SO for the first time in months (got a really freaky problem with jestjs) and it was down.
255 · 3 years ago
It successfully tells me that the website is down
pmontra · 3 years ago
By the way

  Start time: June 15, 2023 | 9:00pm
  End time: June 15, 2023 | 10:00pm

  We are performing a software upgrade
  on network equipment that will cause
  some traffic to be dropped for about
  1 minute, during the device restart. 
I wonder which time zone. No idea where they are in the USA.

dtjc · 3 years ago
It tells me:

    Start time: June 15, 2023 | 11:00pm
    End time: June 16, 2023 | 12:00am
So I guess it's in our time zone? I'm in GMT+2.

napsterbr · 3 years ago
Yep. I mean, it's nice that we don't have to do the timezone math, but they still should include the timezone to avoid confusion.
hanniabu · 3 years ago
> Planned maintenance scheduled for Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 21:00 UTC

https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/maintenance+...

fastest963 · 3 years ago
They commented on that and said:

> The downtime we just experienced wasn't related to this maintenance. We'll be posting the details shortly.

gjsman-1000 · 3 years ago
Mandatory reminder that you can download StackOverflow for offline use (at least, you can once it's back online):

https://stackoverflow.blog/2022/10/20/introducing-the-overfl...

https://download.kiwix.org/zim/stack_exchange/stackoverflow....

https://download.kiwix.org/zim/stack_exchange/stackoverflow....

You would definitely be an elite at your job for situations like this...

BrentOzar · 3 years ago
> you can download StackOverflow for offline use

Probably not for long. They've already discontinued the public data dump: https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/389922/june-2023-da...

rtavares · 3 years ago
They did not discountinue it. They are uploading June data dump and it's expected that the automatic data dumps are re-enabled by end of day Friday: https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/390200
nailer · 3 years ago
They should set up an old-style MSDN service where CD-ROMs arrive in your mailbox every month.
gjsman-1000 · 3 years ago
:(

That's unfortunate. At least you can still get May's dump which has plenty of material.

nerdchum · 3 years ago
Awesome! Thanks!!!!
qsantos · 3 years ago
No Reddit, no Stack Overflow. Thankfully, documentation and manuals are still on various platforms and not a single website.
pixl97 · 3 years ago
Crap, ChatGPT is down too, guess I'm not getting anything done today.
LordShredda · 3 years ago
you were not getting anything done anyways with that
JJMcJ · 3 years ago
> single website

Many many projects host on readthedocs.com. So that's another major failure point.

brabel · 3 years ago
It's good practice to keep docs on your own machine... no need for it to be only available online.
SamuelAdams · 3 years ago
Most SO pages can be viewed with google’s cached page feature.
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK · 3 years ago
I've been using the same programming language for the last 20 years. I don't need any of that crap :-Þ
saintradon · 3 years ago
First reddit and now Stack Overflow? Rough couple of days for anyone googling things.
8organicbits · 3 years ago
One unexpected benefit of LLM (to me) is that it memorized large parts of the internet, so it has some backup like properties. SO is down, but ChatGPT memorized it already.
tehbeard · 3 years ago
It may have memorized it, but recollection with accuracy is not it's strong suit.
twelve40 · 3 years ago
> SO is down, but ChatGPT memorized

memorized SO, also known as "stole". when i (and everyone else) write for SO, i give them permission to use what i write, but never did I sign up for the GPT theft of that data.

phatfish · 3 years ago
Yes that is one of the cool side benefits i see too. It's like lossy compression for knowledge.

Although, I mean that more in the sense we can have an entire (text) internet search engine on a phone, rather than it being a full backup.

saintradon · 3 years ago
Yeah definitely. My default thought process was always, ok I'll just get a cached version, but now it's like - lemme see what GPT-4 thinks about this problem first.
john-radio · 3 years ago
I had a bash question for ChatGPT earlier and I opened with "Okay, it's just you and me now..."
mberlove · 3 years ago
I've been plugging search engine result links for reddit and stackoverflow into archive.org to "bypass" - works more or less.
bookofjoe · 3 years ago
One day ALL websites will go down worldwide and stay down. Could be today, could be 50 years in the future. Make sure you have a LOT of books you look forward to reading. "The Road" is not just a parable.
bratbag · 3 years ago
I think it's more likely they will go down because we have replaced them with something as far beyond websites, as websites are beyond books.
e-master · 3 years ago
Interestingly, I’ve noticed a significant drop in stackoverflow results when I Google in the recent months. Can’t really attribute it to anything, but an honest word sometimes I don’t use SO for weeks.
twelve40 · 3 years ago
what? just click on "cached", SO doesn't just drop out of google
angelmm · 3 years ago
I'm curious how the status page is down too. Those pages are usually in a totally separated infrastructure.
wombatpm · 3 years ago
They SHOULD be on separated infrastructure.

Sometimes your separated infrastructure is not as separate as you think. True story. Northwest Airlines (prior to merger with Delta) was grounded for a couple of days in the 90's due to a backhoe cutting through their data and communication lines about 300 yards from their control center. Both vendors were using the same utility right of way. So separate systems, separate vendors, separate cables buried in the ground next to each other. One backhoe operator took them both out.

jaywalk · 3 years ago
Looks like they use FireHydrant (https://firehydrant.com/) for their status page. But if FireHydrant is having issues, they'd need Stack Overflow. It's a terrible coincidence.
aloisdg · 3 years ago
hug of death?
ineedasername · 3 years ago
As of now, 3:46 PM GMT, stack overflow is up and not just read-only, I am able to comment.