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dang · 3 years ago
Related. Others?

Mystery of Somerton man’s identity solved after 73 years, researchers say - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32251717 - July 2022 (14 comments)

Australia Exhumes the Somerton Man, and His 70-Year Mystery - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27250937 - May 2021 (5 comments)

The Lost Man - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9666581 - June 2015 (4 comments)

The Body on Somerton Beach (2011) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7913942 - June 2014 (14 comments)

Waterluvian · 3 years ago
I loved reading this. A nice short but true mystery solving story.

But the epilogue about how being an electronics engineer gave them a bit of a unique edge feels like a self-serving stretch. The techniques in the story seem accessible to any reasonably well-learned individual if they’re motivated enough to sleuth. All the advanced work was done by other people. And there’s a tinge of the classic, “the established discipline is living in the past but us engineers can do it better…”

stevage · 3 years ago
I think you're misrepresenting the text a bit. It says:

> What’s interesting about solving such a case is how it relies on concepts that may seem counterintuitive to forensic biologists but are quite straightforward to an electronics engineer.

They're only claiming it's "counterintuitive" to biologists trained in other methods.

marchenko · 3 years ago
Imputation is a fairly common technique that would be familiar to most molecular or computational geneticists, especially those used to working with poor samples. There are software packages to assist in the calculation.
robertlagrant · 3 years ago
> And there’s a tinge of the classic, “the established discipline is living in the past but us engineers can do it better…”

It's a classic for a reason :)

melagonster · 3 years ago
but it is belong biology region. SNPs is a old concept in genomics.
mjfl · 3 years ago
Amazing! I wonder how much this rules out the espionage, or the connection to Jo Thomson though. I wonder if she sold him the poison or something. In any case, I am morbidly fascinated by stories of people dying alone, without children, and being forgotten. Perhaps because I feel it could be my own fate. Certainly more common than any of us are prepared for, as we are all decendents of the genetic winners.
neuronic · 3 years ago
What fascinates me about this thought is that being a genetic winner in modern society could just mean you were qualified enough to donate to a sperm bank.

No more successful relationships or sinister ways of ensuring genetic survival are required.

roydigerhund · 3 years ago
You usually have to meet some criteria (health, education, age) in order to donate to a sperm bank. And after this selection you have to be selected which is again based on more criteria.
mjfl · 3 years ago
yeah but as a donor to a sperm bank, you can certainly be forgotten much more easily than a real parent. It's like being an uncle or something.
mistrial9 · 3 years ago
odd how "AI Face Recognition" sounds so authoritative, yet "machine learning Face Recognition" is also accurate but does not hide the inherent uncertainty, guesswork, noise and error in the process
xwdv · 3 years ago
AI is the new marketing term. Machine learning is old.
TedDoesntTalk · 3 years ago
I grew up decades ago hearing about the Somerton Man from my father, who read books on the subject and was fascinated by it. “Somerton Man was a murdered spy” was a popular theory for quite some time and entire books were written on the subject. My father is now long gone, but I wish he was alive to learn about the mystery being solved.
shakow · 3 years ago
> Note that SNPs have around 50 to 150 base pairs of nucleotides

What does this mean? SNPs being, by definition, single nucleotide polymorphisms, how does the author jump from 1bp to 50-150bp? Or is he referring to the surrounding DNA region?

mfld · 3 years ago
Written like this, it doesn't make sense since a SNP has a length of 1. However, you need longer DNA fragments to be able to correctly determine the SNP, and old DNA tends to be fragmented. They are likely referring to those fragment lenghts.
akiselev · 3 years ago
“Single” in this case refers to the polymorphism not the segment length.
margalabargala · 3 years ago
Could you elaborate on this? Are you claiming that SNPs do not generally refer to only one nucleotide?
timbit42 · 3 years ago
Answers with Joe Scott did two videos on this story, the latest one 7 months ago revealing his name.

One year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCDOYDNZUMI 7 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve_JrmYsU0I

monstertank · 3 years ago
The article mentioned 'elliptical suicide note' what did they mean by that? It's not a code? Just random letters?
PebblesRox · 3 years ago
I think they mean the scrap of paper torn out of the book:

> In 1949, a pathologist had found a bit of paper concealed in one of the dead man’s pockets, and on it were printed the words Tamám Shud, the Persian for “finished.”

TylerE · 3 years ago
The scrap of paper they found in his pocket which had a scrap of paper with words equivilant to “The End” in a foreign language, ripped out of the last page of a book.