Unknown-dose "LSD" in the worst possible set/setting?
Do you really need a warning?
It might not have been proper LSD in the first place. There is synthetic LSA on the market, which gives LSD-type effects for 20-hours instead of the 8-hours of LSD, which has dramatically worse effects on both dopamine and dorepinephrine because of the long stimulation. The result is very bad trips with serious anxiety and paranoia.
Based on the description it seems like he took some other research chemical and not LSD.
Key things:
- 15 minute onset
- Massive hallucinations
- Only lasted a few hours
LSD takes 45 minutes to start the effects and lasts around 12 hours. As mentioned in the article, you don’t hallucinate big scenes or things that aren’t there.
I once had a similar experience where I took some random tabs from a guy in a bar. I immediately had effects with in 15 minutes, with some big visuals. The trip was pretty intense, but not as bad as the author’s. The trip was over in around 5-6 hours. It was definitely a research chemical and not LSD.
I think the issue is that nobody really knows the dosage of street or darkweb tabs. Like, its so incredibly inconsistent, and I've had that from one card where one time two tabs give me a similar experience to the author (only I enjoy the ego deaths), and sometime it feels like I've not taken enough. And it wouldn't have been tolerance; I'm experienced with psychedelics, but I don't take them often. I've had bad trips too, but alas.
> Suffice to say that I was far from home in an unfamiliar (and public) environment with people I didn’t know very well and had little reason to trust.
Stopped reading after this part -- Taking psychedelics in such circumstances is a horrible idea!
I feel like, as with many things, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I’ve had a trip not dissimilar to what is described herein, and while the experience itself was jarring, to say the least, the upshot was that it allowed me to divest myself of an awful lot of the reified bull that we consider to be our world.
For me, being nothing, being everything, being utterly alone, being a barely existent mote in a vast and incomprehensible universe, resonated - for that is what I am - nothing, dust, a brief flickering of matter in a certain organisation against a dark background. Statistically irrelevant noise, indistinguishable from black body radiation at a distance.
For some, ego death is debilitating, for others, liberating - again, I suppose it’s down to the beholder, how invested you are in the false reality that we collectively agree upon, how deep down the rabbit hole you are consciously willing to go, regardless of the psychic pain it inevitably involves as you reassess yourself from “centre of your personal universe” to “statistically non-existent”.
I guess I was at least somewhat primed and prepared when it happened, already being well schooled in the likes of Baudrillard, Dick, and other psychedelically influenced existentialists, and having some context to give me a grasp (as much as one can have a grasp on the slippery fish of reality) on what just happened.
Perhaps… perhaps the bad trip actually came close to freeing him from his personal black iron prison, but upon seeing the vastness of the outside, he decided he preferred the safety and constancy of captivity.
It sounds like a normal trip to me. I still don't know whether I had a "bad trip" in my life on psychedelics. Edibles though - that's another story, much scarier experience to me than even "5g of shrooms in the dark".
Shrug. Most of this is just a description of psycadelics trips in general. It's not a bad trip in itself that you don't know what a name is, or that you spent a lifetime living on (or even being) the "aau" sound from the word "now".
Sounds like this person's other experiences have just been microdosing.
But you had bad feelings during your trip. Yeah that sucks. It happens.
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Do you really need a warning?
It might not have been proper LSD in the first place. There is synthetic LSA on the market, which gives LSD-type effects for 20-hours instead of the 8-hours of LSD, which has dramatically worse effects on both dopamine and dorepinephrine because of the long stimulation. The result is very bad trips with serious anxiety and paranoia.
Small dose in wrong setting: maybe not great but you'll be fine
Large dose in good setting: good
Key things: - 15 minute onset - Massive hallucinations - Only lasted a few hours
LSD takes 45 minutes to start the effects and lasts around 12 hours. As mentioned in the article, you don’t hallucinate big scenes or things that aren’t there.
I once had a similar experience where I took some random tabs from a guy in a bar. I immediately had effects with in 15 minutes, with some big visuals. The trip was pretty intense, but not as bad as the author’s. The trip was over in around 5-6 hours. It was definitely a research chemical and not LSD.
Absolutely false. Set and setting are crucial.
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> Suffice to say that I was far from home in an unfamiliar (and public) environment with people I didn’t know very well and had little reason to trust.
Stopped reading after this part -- Taking psychedelics in such circumstances is a horrible idea!
> In other words, it was as unsuitable an environment for psychedelic experimentation as I could have designed [...]
> I’m not here to play victim; no permanent damage was done, and there are worse traumas.
> I’ve taken psychedelics again since that day with positive results and I’ll continue to enjoy them in moderation.
Reading other people's creative writing regarding drug trips is as interesting as hearing someone telling their dreams: amusing sometimes.
I’ve had a trip not dissimilar to what is described herein, and while the experience itself was jarring, to say the least, the upshot was that it allowed me to divest myself of an awful lot of the reified bull that we consider to be our world.
For me, being nothing, being everything, being utterly alone, being a barely existent mote in a vast and incomprehensible universe, resonated - for that is what I am - nothing, dust, a brief flickering of matter in a certain organisation against a dark background. Statistically irrelevant noise, indistinguishable from black body radiation at a distance.
For some, ego death is debilitating, for others, liberating - again, I suppose it’s down to the beholder, how invested you are in the false reality that we collectively agree upon, how deep down the rabbit hole you are consciously willing to go, regardless of the psychic pain it inevitably involves as you reassess yourself from “centre of your personal universe” to “statistically non-existent”.
I guess I was at least somewhat primed and prepared when it happened, already being well schooled in the likes of Baudrillard, Dick, and other psychedelically influenced existentialists, and having some context to give me a grasp (as much as one can have a grasp on the slippery fish of reality) on what just happened.
Perhaps… perhaps the bad trip actually came close to freeing him from his personal black iron prison, but upon seeing the vastness of the outside, he decided he preferred the safety and constancy of captivity.
If someone wrote an article titled "Alcohol nearly ruined my life", most people wouldn't translate it into "No one should ever drink alcohol"
The oddly defensive comments which are much lower quality than I'd expect on this site are still posted.
I find salvia entirely tolerable, even enjoyable, but strong edibles push my shit in somehow.
Sounds like this person's other experiences have just been microdosing.
But you had bad feelings during your trip. Yeah that sucks. It happens.