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vegcel · 3 years ago
Step 1: Create a Watermark remover that requires a business email and card on file to use.

Step 2: Create an agency/service owned by the Watermark remover company which works with photographers, artists, etc on hunting down and enforcing licensing deals on large copyright infringers.

Supply, meet demand.

neilv · 3 years ago
I nominate this for the inaugural "Tech Jerks Of The Day Award".
PeterBarrett · 3 years ago
Pricing? That's a bit rich. Will people who don't want to pay for images pay for this?
lm28469 · 3 years ago
There is a lot of watermarked content that you can't buy as a digital file, content on redbubble comes to mind for example (stickers. clothing designs, &c.), harvest watermarked art, clean it up, put it for sale somewhere else.

I don't think this tool targets well intentioned law abiding, copyright respecting people

dahart · 3 years ago
I’m not sure I understand what you mean… isn’t harvesting watermarked art from redbubble and selling it somewhere else illegal under copyright law, if you don’t own the product or the image? Did I misunderstand your suggestion? How and when is taking a watermark off something you didn’t create well intentioned and law abiding?
l5870uoo9y · 3 years ago
i also fail to see a market for this, but 50K installs on android and close to 1200 likes on product hunt suggests that there might be
halfjoking · 3 years ago
There’s probably a huge market of people that haven’t kept up with the AI boom, and they don’t know free tools exist for this. HN isn’t that market.

I never used it for watermarks but llama-cleaner is one - it worked pretty well at removing text.

https://github.com/Sanster/lama-cleaner

hombre_fatal · 3 years ago
It is a much different problem to pay for a license for every single image you have scraped from an arbitrary variety of sources and watermarks than to pay for software that removes any watermark.
bravoetch · 3 years ago
Seems like a post-scarcity race to the bottom. The question is whether we can encumber post-scarce resources with IP in a meaningful way for much longer.
Pxtl · 3 years ago
Bruce Sterling said it best: "Information wants to be worthless"
fnfontana · 3 years ago
The content aware fill on Photoshop can do the same thing, actually, there are many AI based solutions to remove watermarks and a considerable amount of them are free to use.

Watermarks is no more a stopper for people who don't want to pay for images. Here is an opportunity to inventing new ways to protect stock images.

onion2k · 3 years ago
As far as I can tell, the main winner in the new AI industry boom will be lawyers.
fxtentacle · 3 years ago
And artists. If someone removed your watermark, you can sue for punitive damages in addition to just recovering lost licensing revenue.
acadapter · 3 years ago
No, only high-status artists with lawyers
bookofjoe · 3 years ago
"I have never been ruined but twice in my life — once, when I lost a lawsuit, and once when I won one."—Voltaire
toomuchtodo · 3 years ago
Operate your ML outside of the jurisdiction. You may not be able to have a corp and get rich, but the LLMs will run somewhere.

China, for better or worse, is likely a great place for ML advancement due to their casual take on IP.

aspyct · 3 years ago
Yeah, like I'm going to sue people for a couple bucks off my events photos...
jeltz · 3 years ago
Punitive damages do not exist in many countries. I think it is mostly a US thing.
breck · 3 years ago
The AI boom makes it crystal clear that (c)opywrong laws are idiotic and unjust.

It's time to pass the #FreedomToPublish Amendment to the U.S. Constitution getting rid of (c)opywrong laws forever:

    Section 1. Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 of this Constitution is hereby repealed.
    Section 2. Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people to publish or peaceably implement ideas.

UncleEntity · 3 years ago
If all you want is AI generated content then, yeah, sure.
qikInNdOutReply · 3 years ago
Hey, that very thought in all its instances and variations is copyrightous with Disney..
tutfbhuf · 3 years ago
I think you're talking about AI lawyers.
ArjenM · 3 years ago
It always leads back to that half empty warehouse, inhabited solely by robots who suddenly stop doing anything because they all reach singularity and it's most efficient to wait it all out, we don't last as long.
aspyct · 3 years ago
I'm a photographer, and I've encountered people who stole my pictures. Believe me, waking up at 5AM, staying up running around all day to take pictures, to then see some people not even pay the price of a lunch for them is... well, doesn't feel great.

Thankfully that's a minority of people.

What I mean to say is: f*ck people who make such "watermark removal" tools.

Dead Comment

__MatrixMan__ · 3 years ago
I don't think I'd pay for this, but I would pay for an invisible-watermark remover for protecting whistleblowers and scholarly-journal pirates, ideally for use with PDF's. Although it might be hard to convince me to trust it.
Tepix · 3 years ago
Whee! Another AI service with ethics implications that will be commonplace (i.e. unstoppable with open source implementations) sooner rather than later.

DPReview talks about this service in their article at

https://www.dpreview.com/news/0407669255/ai-powered-watermar...

which has already received 300 comments.