Sadly, this theory worked quite well in my country, at some point under a government established by a military coup, so with a bit too fascist way of keeping the law and order.
But the thing is, the first actions were rough, but after that crime realigned itself to a lot calmer, warmed version, with a very low profile, far away from very visible and / or explicit public violence.
All in all, society as a whole ripped tangible benefits, and those were actually happy years for most of the citizens, the benefits were later lost when a democratic government took over the political power and restablished the proper not-rough enforcement of the law.
So the apparent leasson would be that humans are actual predators, and you're not going to easily convince such a dangerous intelligent entity to go the way of the law if he / she has decided to do otherwise.
Classist bullshit. Police the people who have the least money and time to fix things. Awesome, yea that's great for society. Put more pressure on poor people instead of just helping them.
Can you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? It makes threads dumber and nastier. Please make your substantive points without that.
We've already had to ask you this once before, and you've continued to post unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments pretty regularly. We end up having to ban such accounts, so please fix this.
It isn't classist bullshit at all, it's human psychology observable and testable even on small scales. Try this experiment!
Detail clean your car meticulously, and on separate occasions, ask friends to come with you to get some fast food. Notice how much trash they leave behind in the car when they're done - probably none.
Now, deliberately make your car interior messy and dirty. Run the same test again with different friends, and observe that more trash has been left behind.
Humans naturally conform to the expectations of society, which they interpret based partially on environmental cues of their surroundings. When those environmental cues advertise social expectations of lawlessness, uncaring, and valuelessness, behavior alters to match expectations.
How are you supposed to help people that want to spray their ‘art’ on other peoples property? People that want to vandalize other peoples property? Give them free paint?
Investing in communities gives people things to do. People can't invest when they're broke, throwing police at them does nothing to help, in fact it does the opposite.
Also your comment makes it sound like literally all people are just vandals who do graffiti. That's a disgusting view of humans that lacks perspective and nuance.
Funny how the minorities who actually live in crappy neighborhoods want more policing, but plenty of uppity whites claim it’s racist while safely ensconced in their safe neighborhoods.
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. What you did in this thread is not ok.
We've had to ask/warn you about this many times in the past, and you've unfortunately continued to do it. If this keeps up, we're going to have to ban you, so please stop.
But the thing is, the first actions were rough, but after that crime realigned itself to a lot calmer, warmed version, with a very low profile, far away from very visible and / or explicit public violence.
All in all, society as a whole ripped tangible benefits, and those were actually happy years for most of the citizens, the benefits were later lost when a democratic government took over the political power and restablished the proper not-rough enforcement of the law.
So the apparent leasson would be that humans are actual predators, and you're not going to easily convince such a dangerous intelligent entity to go the way of the law if he / she has decided to do otherwise.
The theory seems to state that broken windows generate crime which suggests that if you literally fix the windows the result will be less crime.
We've already had to ask you this once before, and you've continued to post unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments pretty regularly. We end up having to ban such accounts, so please fix this.
If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
Detail clean your car meticulously, and on separate occasions, ask friends to come with you to get some fast food. Notice how much trash they leave behind in the car when they're done - probably none.
Now, deliberately make your car interior messy and dirty. Run the same test again with different friends, and observe that more trash has been left behind.
Humans naturally conform to the expectations of society, which they interpret based partially on environmental cues of their surroundings. When those environmental cues advertise social expectations of lawlessness, uncaring, and valuelessness, behavior alters to match expectations.
Not to mention your "population" in this case is preselected from your own friend group
Also your comment makes it sound like literally all people are just vandals who do graffiti. That's a disgusting view of humans that lacks perspective and nuance.
We've had to ask/warn you about this many times in the past, and you've unfortunately continued to do it. If this keeps up, we're going to have to ban you, so please stop.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html