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mmh0000 · 4 years ago
Fun Fact!

For those of you with an Apple Watch. The watch itself has a pretty impressive microphone and the built-in "Voice Memo" app is incredibly good at recording for long periods. After starting a recording, if you return to the watch screen there's no big "give away" that recording is happening.

I've started doing something similar to the Author of the article. Whenever I feel I'm entering a conversation I'll need later I start recording.

Recordings autosync back to the phone, the "Voice Memo" phone app can skip periods of silence, AND best of all the recordings can be easily exported to other things.

nobody9999 · 4 years ago
>I've started doing something similar to the Author of the article. Whenever I feel I'm entering a conversation I'll need later I start recording.

Not sure where you're located, but some places require all parties to be aware that they're being recorded and not informing (and receiving consent) other parties can be a illegal act[0] in the US.

This link[1] looks at the US and other (a not very comprehensive list) countries.

I'm emphatically not saying you shouldn't record stuff, just that there are laws and you should be aware of them.

[0] https://recordinglaw.com/united-states-recording-laws/

[1] https://www.telemessage.com/call-recording-laws-an-internati...

mmh0000 · 4 years ago
This is a good point to bring up, and I am in a single-party-consent state.

But, if I'm being honest, I don't care. These recordings are for my own use, and beyond the anonymity the internet provides. No one knows I do this.

I have found having these recordings which I have automatically transcribed, to be easily searchable. To be a huge life saver when clients change system requirements mid-project, or bosses start attempting to gaslight.

People just think I have an amazing memory.

willcipriano · 4 years ago
This is a common refrain on Reddit and other places, but does anyone know anyone who ever had a issue with this law?

If you aren't going to offer the recordings to the public in any way I can't see how you would even be caught.

I particularly like when people say you shouldn't record evidence of someone committing a crime. For someone to press charges they would have to admit that they are the person on the recording, commiting the crime.

phyzome · 4 years ago
Where, AFAICT, "consent" means "you have the option to stop talking, but I'm allowed to keep recording no matter what now that I've notified you".
ar_lan · 4 years ago
Isn't this an incredibly dangerous game Amazon is playing with Alexa devices, then? IIRC everything gets recorded.
aaaaaaaaata · 4 years ago
I thought my friends installing smart speakers I feel compelled to unplug was annoying...you're my worst nightmare!
pc86 · 4 years ago
You're just unplugging other people's things?
godmode2019 · 4 years ago
I don't even enter some peoples houses that have 'smart speakers'.

Why on earth do they have them is the question I can't figure out.

beckman466 · 4 years ago
this is a great strategy and a patriotic one even, i mean, just imagine if the NSA were to lose their copy of your data and they'd actually need access to it. then they could just use whatever Intel Management Engine type backdoor software you need to access that person's personal devices and voila, you've got yourself a viable new copy of the file. let people collect their own evidence for you!
Kiboneu · 4 years ago
Well, there is a giveaway, but one would need to know it and have good points in perception.

I generally use the assumption that I’m being recorded (with people / groups I don’t know well) as a speech filter / clarity motivator.

geocrasher · 4 years ago
It's a wonderful thing when a physical device captures the Unix philosophy of doing one thing very well.

I would hope, for the author's sake, that there are similar devices that can be purchased new for professional use. Because for all the features, abilities, and advancements available on things like a smart phone, they unavoidably create a single point of failure. And then there's the refrain often heard from the Commodore 64 and 8 bit computing ilk: Newer isn't always better.

adamgordonbell · 4 years ago
Sony ICD-UX570 is pretty nice, if looking for a similar product that is modern.

With the storage size of microSD cards, a low bit enough rate, and the auto pause feature combined, it's possible it could record your entire professional career on it without erasing anything.

rapjr9 · 4 years ago
Agreed, the ICD-UX560 is also nice, I have several. Zoom makes several slightly larger recorders that capture better audio though, the H1 and H2n are great. They can record in 24bit (higher dynamic range, easier to capture both soft and loud sounds) and 96KHz, and run on ordinary NiMH AA batteries (the Sony's have internal LiIon). The Sony recorders are 16bit/44.1KHz. However if you're recording to MP3 and just want to capture voice that may not matter as much since the quality will be reduced anyway. The smaller size of the Sony's may matter as well, they will easily fit in a pocket with little bulk whereas the Zoom's will be somewhat uncomfortable in a pocket (though they'll fit). If you're trying to be inconspicuous the Sony's look less like a recorder, the Zoom's very obviously look like recorders with prominent microphones or a mic grill screen.
otikik · 4 years ago
The title made me think this was about a hand-made wind instrument which illustrated all the knowledge accumulated by a professional luthier in 13 years.
NotAnEnemy · 4 years ago
Funny, I thought it was about a teenage podcaster talking with a professional for a very long time.
raverbashing · 4 years ago
It's funny how sometimes a casual purchase of an object ends up having such a profound impact.

I guess it is the limiting factor of time/space/money. You got the one you could have gotten and ran away with it as far as you could with it.

The only "gotcha" I'd say is that I'm not sure there were many Radio Shacks in Montreal, the author might have been thinking of a different store (Future Shop maybe)

samueldr · 4 years ago
The author is likely Canadian given their current biography snippet.

There were Radio Shacks in Canada, before they ended up being renamed The Source in 2004[0]. So in 2009, the year cited in the article, they would have gone to "The Source", but likely still thought of it as Radio Shack, the old name of the chain.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Source_(retailer)

raverbashing · 4 years ago
Ah yes, that's most likely it!
gaudat · 4 years ago
> the rewind button didn’t function, which pushed the recorder past the point of usefulness.

What's more impressive is this being a hardware problem that can be fixed by rewiring the button. The electronics or firmware of the recorder is still functional.

Compare this to software apps and smart devices where it is so complex that we have absolutely no hope to fix when they break.

chris_wot · 4 years ago
At one point, Apple started corrupting recordings from the Recorder app on iPhones. One Australian journalist lost his recording of an interview, and the person soon after died.

Of course, there was no way to get Apple to acknowledge the bug, or find a fix. Needless to say, nobody in that newsroom relies on Apple any more.

cromka · 4 years ago
Is this documented as a more common occurrence? Or just one-off? Because if the latter, then could it be just an excuse for journalist's own fuckupery?
chris_wot · 4 years ago
Nope, saw it myself. It was literally a corrupted file. There was nothing the journo could have done to have caused the issue. I downloaded it straight from the iPhone.
midislack · 4 years ago
You should always record your professional interactions. Saves much trouble.