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tguvot · 4 years ago
i made a translation of official RIA new feed a couple of days worth to English to show what official media looks like in Russia right now https://pastebin.com/2JvLre8d

Edit: there was country wide school lesson to explain to children operation in Ukraine. This is material for teachers to assist with Q&A post lesson https://meduza.io/feature/2022/03/03/kogda-ty-vstupish-v-sov...

awb · 4 years ago
Interesting. Looks like they’re embracing the sanction news and boosting Maduro’s views. But amazing to see 0 headlines about Russian advances in Ukraine.
tguvot · 4 years ago
The official news talking mostly about LNR/DNR armies advancing. Russian military performing only surgical strikes against military targets
frabbit · 4 years ago
This coupled with the jail sentences for "disinformation" are predictable in autocracies like Russia. They desire to shutdown information and steer their subject populations into the path of correct thinking.

Very disturbing to see the EU following down this path with the censorship of RussiaToday and other Russian propaganda outfits.

As a citizen of a democracy it is essential that I have the right to access and evaluate all opinions. Even those which I find abhorrent.

jokethrowaway · 4 years ago
This is why we need to get rid of the government and decentralise powers. Russia and China are indefensible. It took 200 years to go from the minarchism of the USA to the largest government in the world. Europe keeps becoming more and more authoritarian.

No more wars, centralised stealing, bureaucracy, corruption, over-regulations The same services the government is offering, can be offered by private companies. We can build road, do healthcare and protect people.

I really hope that after the last 2 years and now this, people will realise we need to change something.

8note · 4 years ago
You can protect people with money. Not that that's different from today, but under privatization, the poor are unworthy of protection, just like they're unworthy of healthcare today
bluefirebrand · 4 years ago
Do you think living under private companies would be actually an improvement?

How do we keep them in check?

djbebs · 4 years ago
The opposite is happening in the EU, where people are committing a crime if they hold the russian stance.
frabbit · 4 years ago
Two things on that:

1) that was somewhat my point: so-called liberal democracies are increasingly censoring and distributing information. Exactly the Orwellian-dystopia many of us fear.

2) If we are talking about the Czech and Slovak examples posted the other day¹ I doubt the Czech authorities, if correctly reported (they seem like extra-ordinary over-reach to me, so much so that I wondered if they were Russian psyops to make the EU look undemocratic and authoritarian), have a legal leg to stand on. The laws seem to refer to war-time. It's part of an attempt to threaten people to shut up or else. I was tempted to see this as a flare-up of anti-democratic thinking from a state long run by a Stalinist political class and only recently (2004) acceded to the EU. Like Poland and Hungary there remain serious questions about the commitment to democratic principles of such states. But then I checked myself and noted that this was unfair as the EU has issued no formal condemnation of this censorship and the public appetite for being spoon fed by their betters seems high.

To be clear: Russia is committing a war crime in invading Ukraine and must withdraw. We must support the Ukranian people without allowing the authoritarians in our own societies to destroy the very values we claim to uphold. No censorship.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30545186

Lammy · 4 years ago
awb · 4 years ago
There was a Russian blogger who swapped ‘invasion’ for ‘TOTALLY PEACEFUL MISSION’ or something similar.

I don’t think they’ll be able to persuade a Russian judge, but it’s interesting to see how people are trying to get around this.

ukraineally · 4 years ago
Shrug? Russia can do whatever they like to their people. Not our place to tell them what's right or wrong in governing their own people. Our problem is the unjustified invasion of Ukraine.

I look at recent history and many Arabic people rose up against their governments. Those people are a strong people and they did it despite high risk of throwing their civilization into civil war or worse.

Canadians have been there to help refugees from those torn countries each time. We will be there to help Ukraine just as we did for Syrians.

As for Russia, we are done being lied to by them. We don't need any interaction with them anymore. They are completely blocked for the immoral and unethical invasion.

nsv · 4 years ago
>Russia can do whatever they like to their people.

This is a callous viewpoint. My heart goes out to the Russian citizens living in an effective dictatorship.

ecf · 4 years ago
Russian citizens are what allow the dictatorship to stay in power.

If they really didn’t like Putin, they’d be able to get rid of him.

ukraineally · 4 years ago
>This is a callous viewpoint. My heart goes out to the Russian citizens living in an effective dictatorship.

You call me callous, that's fine. It would seem others agree with you as I'm quite downvoted. I have a surprising number of Russian interests like Chess. The Russian chess community rejected this war.

We have to remember that our liberal democratic way isn't the only way. It is not our place to tell other countries how to run their countries. That is up to the Russian people to decide. Do they agree with Putin and if not, are they as strong as the Arabic people? Will they overthrow Putin?