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yesenadam · 4 years ago
I did some wacky inside-out pics of planets years ago, inspired by the inside-out Mandelbrot set looking like a leaf/teardrop.

https://www.adamponting.com/inside-out/

Related: Not Knot, 1991 Thurston-ish short film about knots and knot complements - "the space where the knot isn't".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd_HGjH7QZo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Knot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knot_complement

prox · 4 years ago
That knot of Saturn looks like art to me. Anyway hats off for being to play with geometry like that.
zelphirkalt · 4 years ago
Is it just me, or does it look like black holes hovering over the planets? I guess that is to be expected, if a planet with black background is used. Pseudo-scientific question: Could black holes have anything to do with something being inverted?
anthony_romeo · 4 years ago
A black hole is just an object with so much dense mass that its Schwarzschild radius[1^] extends outside of its body. Everything has a Schwarzschild radius.

[1^]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius

dylan604 · 4 years ago
To me, inside out would mean the core on the outside with the crust in the middle. ;-)
quantum_mcts · 4 years ago
I made this experiment I d3 quite some time ago.

http://bl.ocks.org/KKostya/6075142http://bl.ocks.org/KKostya/6066548

Draw rectangle/circle on the right pane

techdragon · 4 years ago
For anyone else who's mind went blank trying to work out just what sort of "inverse" can be applied to a circle. It's interesting math and the diagrams are worth checking out, some very nice use of interactivity to assist with understanding the nature of the function.

But definitely not the kind of inverse I was expecting.

I went to "A function that's equal everywhere not the circle you define in the function", some sort of f(x,y) = !f(circle) by way some sort of algebraic geometry math. Then I was trying to work out if it meant something else... then I loaded it and was genuinely surprised to find its a much more specific kind of inverse that never even occurred to me.

skywal_l · 4 years ago
This article is interesting but not rigorous I think.

* The inverse of a geometric shape makes no sense. We only inverse operations.

* aa^-1 = 1 only if you consider the multiplication over reals.

* 1/0 is not equal to infinity.

Because the article is interesting but some people might be put off by the first few sentences, I suggest to had a disclaimer that this article lean on edutainment to the detriment of rigorous mathematics.

topaz0 · 4 years ago
Your assertions are simply not true in the context of complex analysis. It is common to use "inverse" to refer to the multiplicative inverse as shorthand (though potentially confusing). a a^-1 = 1 is absolutely and uncontroversially applicable to any complex number. It is common and natural to extend to complex plane to include a single point at infinity (known as the extended complex plane, see e.g. https://mathworld.wolfram.com/ExtendedComplexPlane.html ). When you are working in the extended complex plane, 1/0 does equal infinity.
kzrdude · 4 years ago
It depends on your definitions and which mathematical objects you are working with. The notions in the blog post are not something the author invented themselves.

For example you can find Riemann Sphere in wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_sphere

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ghufran_syed · 4 years ago
The answer is “it depends on how you defined the operation that acts on the circle”
TuringTest · 4 years ago
This is it. Inverse is a property of functions or other relational operators, not "static" individual objects. You need a direction in order to invert it.
amatic · 4 years ago
The multiplicative inverse, or reciprocal, or the inverse of a number, is a function acting on a number, 1/x, or x^-1.
ww520 · 4 years ago
As long as, C*Cinv = I, where C is the circle, Cinv is the inverse of circle, and I the identity. You're right. C, I, and * are entirely up in the air.
drran · 4 years ago
In general for inversion, we have object A (argument) and object I (identity) and a function F of two arguments, so we have equations: `F(A, X) == I, F(A, I) == I, F(X, I) == I, A != I, A != X`, where A, I, and X are objects in the same category, i.e. they must be circles `(x² + y² == r²)`.

If F is defined as `ra•rx`, then `ri == 1`, and inverse will be `rx = 1/ra`.

If F is defined as `ra + rx`, then `ri == 0`, and inverse will be `rx = 0 - ra`, where negative radius means hole.

If F is defined as `ra²•rx²`, then `ri == 1²`, and inverse will be `rx = sqrt(1/ra²)`.

If F is defined as `ra² + rx²`, then `ri == 0²`, and inverse will be `rx = sqrt(0 - ra²)`.

And so on.

da_chicken · 4 years ago
An inverse is pretty easy to generalize, and it need not rely on multiplication or the identity.

Basically: Given a function `f`, then the function `g` is the inverse of `f` if `g(f(x)) = x`.

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debbiedowner · 4 years ago
Mountain: inverse of a circle.

Molehill: reciprocal of all points in a circle on the complex plane.

stazz1 · 4 years ago
The dymaxion projection of the globe is one of my favorites and is essentially what an unbroken singular peel/shell of an orange would look like, centered on the North Pole
weatherwoman · 4 years ago
Take Away: 'Is a "smoke ring" also possible as an accustic phenomenon ?' (-;
stazz1 · 4 years ago
beautiful and profound question

thinking of elephants stomping waves many miles... experience points to yes

charcircuit · 4 years ago
In polar coordinates a circle can be defined by all points where r = a. The inverse would be all points where r doesn't equal a.
kikokikokiko · 4 years ago
I interpreted the question myself from another angle: a circle is a function where every f(x) is an equal linear distance to an arbitrary fixed point z. So, the "inverse" to this function could be a function where every f(x) must have a different linear distance to z.
wanderer_ · 4 years ago
Yep, this would have the same effect. Both of these define all of the points that do not describe the circle.

However, as someone said above, f() is the inverse of g() if g(f(x)) = x. When put into practice, this means that the inverse is the reflection of the original function over y = x.

However, there's one problem with looking at the problem this way: A circle is NOT a function. Therefore, it does not have an inverse as we are thinking of it. A circle can be described by two functions, and both of these inverses combine to form the same circle. So, the inverse of a circle is (sort of) itself.

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