Ask HN: Google Guice another abandonware from Google?

It's been already 4 months since JDK17 was released, but Guice (one of the most popular Java dependency injection frameworks) still didn't release required compatibility changes [1]. There looks to be zero contact with maintainers at Google. In the meantime Spring was ready for JDK17 in July (3 months before JDK17 GA) [2]

For years I advocated to use Guice at my companies, as it's considerably less bloated than Spring. Now I'm starting to get some heat on this as it's clear that the support is just not there. Is this the right time to accept the defeat and start migrating back to Spring?

[1] https://github.com/google/guice/issues/1536 [2] https://twitter.com/snicoll/status/1420652097373188100

mark_march · 4 years ago

I work on the team that maintains Guice and we are working on a new release. And no, Guice is not abandonware since it is widely used inside Google. As part of this new release, we will be making some changes to the build setup so hopeful future releases will occur more frequently.

gedy · 4 years ago

Guice is pretty old now, like 12 years or so. That's a pretty good run for a programming library, and wouldn't put that in the same class of abandonment as other Google shutdowns.

xendo · 4 years ago

It's still great library, doesn't miss any features. I just wish it was still maintained, as for some apps I own its almost impossible to migrate.

science4sail · 4 years ago

Guice forms a core part of many of Google's internal Java frameworks, so it's unlikely to be deprecated anytime soon.

However, Google only upgraded to JDK11 in 2021, so there's probably not much internal pressure yet to keep Guice up to date with JDK17.

kaixi · 4 years ago

Yes, I don't know anyone who uses Guice, but lots of people who use Spring. The momentum was never there, nor it will be.

bzzzt · 4 years ago

If you're just concerned about dependency injection there's also the CDI standard way of doing things where there are multiple implementations to choose from.

If you're concerned about bloat you could look into Quarkus. There's a CDI implementation there combined with a really slick and fast runtime.

jsiepkes · 4 years ago

Hasn't Google Guice been superseded by Google Dagger? [1] As far as I know Guice seemed to be in maintenance mode for quite a while now.

[1] https://github.com/google/dagger

xendo · 4 years ago

As far as I understand, Dagger is doing more stuff on compile time and was meant for resource constrained environments like Android. There is no feature parity between the two.

rurban · 4 years ago

Just fork it. But JDK17 support was fixed Sep 2021

xendo · 4 years ago

It was fixed, but the new version was not released. I guess if you work at Google everything works for you.

Creating fork that I don't have time nor skills to reasonably maintain sounds like a recipe for even more problems.

garblegarble · 4 years ago

I'm using com.google.inject:guice:5.0.1 from February 2021 with no issues on JDK17...? Can't remember if it's significant but I'm also using org.ow2.asm:asm:9.1