As a QEMU user, why would I ever allow a Windows VM to talk to a real TPM? The entire point of a VM is to isolate Windows in a predictable and secure manner. Giving it access to a unmanageable coprocessor that has been designed to undermine my own interests completely destroys this goal. Hopefully this restriction will simply be cracked in the popular Windows torrents, or better yet some real TPM keys leak for use with emulators. But more likely by the time any application specifically requires Windows 11 to run, Windows will have faded even further into irrelevance.
I don’t understand the rationale here. You don’t want real tpm exposed to a vm because of security.. but you are okay with running unknown code (cracked software) to do who knows what to your runtime environment? o_O
Errr they want real TPM functionality. Emulation kinda nerfs the whole point of it. It's a hardware key. If you could just emulate it what would stop you spoofing it?
I'm ever so glad that my Windows machines are still running Win 7 with auto updates nuked.
That's the way it'll remain until the hardware fails. Of course, newer hardware runs Linux and replacements will also run Linux.
Microsoft Windows is now so out of kilter with users' actual realworld needs that I don't fully understand why people haven't migrated away from it droves.
Hopefully I don't use windows, but it is incredible that it does not piss off more people that you can't use an entire OS just because of a hw module required only for a small feature used by a minority of users. Mostly corporate.
But if you think long term, it makes sense for Microsoft:
They dream about having the same control as apple and Google have on their devices.
The problem is that nothing prevent users to be the master of their machine and doing whatever they want with it.
With the tpm module, they can start to restrict some things to you on your own computer, controlled by the tpm, and as an user you will have not way to do anything about it. Like copy your data to another computer.
I’m actually considering just blowing away Windows on my gaming media center and just replacing it with Ubuntu. Most of my games work on proton anyway, anti cheat support is coming (thanks Stram Deck) and I’m just fed up with Microsoft’s constant built-in ads and notifications nagging, constant intrusive updates if I don’t use it for a while and even just the other day my video driver was corrupt and had to do a factory reset reinstall. Tired of the nonsense.
If everything goes well, there will be finally be enough top engineers working on making Linux more fully substitute for Windows, than there have been Microsoft employees.
Yes, and I can't help but think this will be used for more draconian DRM. I'm equally sure that soon people will have emulated TPMs that will act as a plug-in too.
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Qemu already supports TPM pass through and secure boot.
Edit: autocorrect TPM
> Unlike VMware, which creates a virtual TPM, VirtualBox's new driver will require a host to have a TPM 2.0 processor for this feature to work.
That's the way it'll remain until the hardware fails. Of course, newer hardware runs Linux and replacements will also run Linux.
Microsoft Windows is now so out of kilter with users' actual realworld needs that I don't fully understand why people haven't migrated away from it droves.
But if you think long term, it makes sense for Microsoft:
They dream about having the same control as apple and Google have on their devices. The problem is that nothing prevent users to be the master of their machine and doing whatever they want with it. With the tpm module, they can start to restrict some things to you on your own computer, controlled by the tpm, and as an user you will have not way to do anything about it. Like copy your data to another computer.
This is a very critical milestone.
https://kutt.it/Bh0Mad
Password MDL2021
Simple to do, works fine for me. I built the original image using uudump.net
Im not the creator or author of either tool just a satisfied user.
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