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codingcoyote · 4 years ago
Note that they don't believe it posed any additional health risks, they identified the issue that caused it and believe it affected single batch: "All the vials came from a single lot, but shots from two other lots from the same Rovi manufacturing line were suspended as a precaution." So likely nothing to worry about at scale.
criticaltinker · 4 years ago
> they don't believe it posed any additional health risks

> So likely nothing to worry about at scale

> About 500,000 people have received shots from the three suspended Moderna batches

Why are you so confidently advocating for a "safe until proven unsafe" mentality here? The health impacts from this contamination are completely unknown, and could impact a lot of people, and their children, etc.

EDIT: down vote all you want, armchair reasoning does not prove that this contamination is safe - cite some relevant scientific literature to support your claims

22c · 4 years ago
I suspect you're being downvoted by people who simply recognise your username at this point. It's disappointing because I think your comments for the most part are fine, people just seem to take offence to you not being a vaccine zealot.

In doing my part to stick to the topic at hand, I tried to find some research which supports these claims about stainless steel. It seems like Nickel is typically a component of stainless steel and is generally not something you want to have in your body[1].

I'm also not sure how the additional iron, presumably being processed by the liver, might affect someone who has cirrhosis.

I assume "nothing to worry about at scale" really means "not likely to immediately kill a bunch of people".

[1] http://www.electrochemsci.org/papers/vol10/100503792.pdf

thatguy0900 · 4 years ago
Because the vaccines are political now, so there isn't any room for uncertainty. You're either for or against.
Eridrus · 4 years ago
There are ways to predict what will happen besides randomized controlled trials.
oliwarner · 4 years ago
What's being advocated here?

The batch is being recalled. They think it's nothing to panic people who have received it based on us having decades of blood-contact data for stainless alloys.

If you're going to attack the messenger, at least read the message.

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icedistilled · 4 years ago
Stainless steel? Wait until the people scared of vaccines find out what's in tattoo ink. What's the overlap between tattooed and vaccine hesitant?
fomine3 · 4 years ago
From Takeda's statement, it's 316 stainless steel.

https://www.takeda.com/ja-jp/announcements/2021/investigatio...

asddubs · 4 years ago
guess it still doesn't make your blood magnetic then
hirvi74 · 4 years ago
I imagine stainless steel particles are in a lot of things. I, like many others, use stainless steel silverware, cutlery, pots/pans, sinks/faucets, etc..

If stainless steel is worrisome, then I feel like one or two injections is probably the least of concerns at this point. Then again, I'm just an ignorant person with a keyboard and internet access, so what do I know?

bsaul · 4 years ago
I hope that you’re aware injecting air in your vein may potentially lead to your death in a short amount of time ?
fdupress · 4 years ago
Vaccines go into muscle, not blood vessels.

It's still much better for everyone involved to not stick air into your muscle, though.

nate_meurer · 4 years ago
Any air accidentally injected into a vein as part of a vaccination would be insufficient to cause injury. It takes tens or hundred of milliliters of air to cause a venous embolism in a typical person.

Covid vaccine syringes are 1 ml. It's impossible to inject enough air using one of these syringes to cause any sort of trouble.

echlebek · 4 years ago
Terrible news to get now, at what I would reckon is the peak of the anti-vax movement so far. Today a huge crowd of people blocked ambulances that were arriving at the hospital in my city, protesting vaccines. I have rarely witnessed such idiocy here, certainly never on such a massive scale. This story about metal contaminants will surely become part of their twisted repertoire.
Leary · 4 years ago

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