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Mountain_Skies · 5 years ago
Fun that some of the messages in-between the songs are for things like security being called to go to a particular zone of the store. I remember hearing those as a kid and wondering who got busted, never thinking that the announcement might be as fake as the security cameras.
jdporter · 5 years ago
It isn't always fake. I used to work in a retail chain store (I won't say its name, but it ends with "xx" and starts with "TJ") and we were trained to use certain codes on the PA when we needed security to come deal with a situation. The difference, I think, is that these real alerts were coded so as not to be understood by the customers.
waihtis · 5 years ago
"All warfare is based on deception."

- Sun Tzu, 5th century BC

beamatronic · 5 years ago
You just blew my mind. It was very convincing hearing these as a kid.
BTCOG · 5 years ago
As a kid? Kroger stores regularly play these loudspeaker "Security check, zone blue" announcements to this day in certain stores about the country.
mikestew · 5 years ago
Captain Pedantic checking in to remind our viewers that at a quick glance this does not appear to be Muzak (EDIT: no, that is definitely not Muzak), but rather ambient music played in K-Mart stores. Muzak is a specific brand of ambient music, which appears to suffer the same fate as Kleenex and Xerox:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzak

That page is worth a read, if only for the means of distribution used over the years. But do I ever digress...

shervinafshar · 5 years ago
Thank you Captain Pedantic. HN threads won't be the same without nitpicking and pedantry. I think by "ambient" you mean piped music, elevator music, Muzak(tm). Because Eno ain't no elevator music.
jjulius · 5 years ago
>Because Eno ain't no elevator music.

In keeping with the pedantic nitpicking, I think Eno might actually disagree and say that his music could be elevator music. In the liner notes[0] for 'Ambient 1: Music for Airports', he writes that "Ambient Music must be able to accomodate many levels of listening attention without enforcing one in particular; it must be as ignorable as it is interesting."

But, speaking for myself, I wouldn't relegate Eno's music to the elevator. :)

[0]https://audioweb.sitehost.iu.edu/T369/eno-ambient.pdf

polka_haunts_us · 5 years ago
It's funny. My favorite band, Devo, released Muzak mixes of their songs several times in the 80s. However, you would never hear such a thing piped in a store in 2020. Plain vanilla "Whip It" though? Absolutely.

Said another way, Eno (and Devo and many others) are essentially the Muzak of the modern day.

ggm · 5 years ago
Eric Satie invented the form, composing music to leave the theatre to. He's said to have got very angry when people refused to leave.

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rektide · 5 years ago
At some point I feel like society deserves a vote. Sorry, you have claimed copyright & intellectual property, but we are just going to go to duckduckgo.com and google for whatever we're looking for. Your insistence that this (google, noun) is your word has failed; we all know it, why deny it.

Whatever the owners of "Muzak" wanted, whatever they thought of it: the dog is out of the yard. It's free. Your claim may be legal, but it is, by all accounts, incorrect and false. This word has a meaning now, this passive easy listening background vibe, humming nothings, it embodies something more real than what the owner intended. It's falsity & a lie that we let law & property dictate to us the terms by which we think. It's said that a rose would smell just as sweet by any other name. Well, society knows these roses, far better than whomever came up with the name. Let us not let the first-comers shape & dictate to us our usages.

(Velcro, I am coming for you. Your hegemony over this idea is coming to an end! We will not fall back to "hook and loop" forever, like animals! We all know we need a word. That you own it? Bah! Poppycock! The resistance of your lawyers does not cow me, does not frighten us!)

vonseel · 5 years ago
Which, I suppose, is why they have rebranded to “Mood Media”, and no longer use the word Muzak. As you might have seen if you read the article.
anon73044 · 5 years ago
I believe most of the large retailers play from the Hitlist or Hot FM playlists. http://muzakwpn.muzak.com/
tclancy · 5 years ago
I worked at a restaurant that did have it and they appeared to be magnificent 16 track tapes (or whatever the alpha male of the 8-track family was). They looked like they could fit a full LP.
kalleboo · 5 years ago
The YouTuber "techmoan" has done a few videos on the hardware that ran various background music systems, and one that stands out is the 3M Cantata, which had some massive tape cartridges https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WQbJ0VFrFQ

There are also systems with smaller cartridges https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_5DPvPiUMY

Stacks of vinyl records https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kCHx3_vu9M

And standard cassette tapes running at a lower speed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV2EhEd46BY

closeparen · 5 years ago
Oh man. Exurban wastelands of Nowhere, America. Endless fluorescent popcorn ceilings and despair. Is there another word for nostalgia, where instead of missing something you remember fondly, you are grateful to have escaped from something that seemed to drain your soul? I remember these places having an almost Dementor-like effect on me long before I was old enough to be a coastal elite or a classist or an architecture snob or whatever.
B-Con · 5 years ago
This made me both chuckle and cringe a bit. Well put.

The word you're looking for... My spouse suggested something related to trauma or PTSD. Then I saw "flashback" suggested.[0]

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/508877/is-there-...

shervinafshar · 5 years ago
Wonderful take. Thanks for sharing.
Bootwizard · 5 years ago
FINALLY! I've been wanting to remix these kind of songs into hiphop songs for a long time. This is such a weird victory for music producers. These are a gold mine for hip hop sampling.
raidicy · 5 years ago
This is my exact intention as well. I've got the tracks open in my editor and just let it play until something catches my attention.
Bootwizard · 5 years ago
Have you found a way to download or torrent them all?
rchaud · 5 years ago
Vaporwave producers as well

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keiferski · 5 years ago
There is a fun niche on YouTube that’s similar to this. It’s called mallsoft or mallwave and is a subgenre of the vaporwave genre.

https://youtu.be/JELt1jxJsHQ

https://youtu.be/FZUfiW3W1KY

sbarre · 5 years ago
You can also find good Mallsoft playlists on Spotify

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4im2nSUjjCdReLLDNwDQoC

EvanAnderson · 5 years ago
Late to the party on this one but I wanted to leave this note for posterity. Turns out that there's an interesting business story and a timely death tied-in here too.

I got curious because some of the tapes bear the name of an audio production company in Greenville, OH, a few miles down the road from my hometown. The booming male voice on the recordings also sounded familiar to me, too. I'm fairly certain I heard him on the local radio station that my father played over the PA in our family grocery store when I was growing up.

I did some searching and learned that back on November 30, the gentleman who founded the audio company, and who acted as the "voice of K-Mart", died.

It looks like he was involved in ventures that persist today. His company EchoSat[1] (which I'd heard of with some past involvement in the convenience store / retail petroleum industry) recently merged with an IT security firm to become "ControlScan".

Quoting the obituary[2]:

He started Tower Sound and Communications while in Greenville to pursue a venture that would eventually spearhead "in store" broadcasting for companies such as Kmart (he became the voice of Kmart) and Jamesway which evolved into another corporation in KY called EchoSat that would use satellite technology in helping with multiple stores for POS processing and security.

There's an interview with Lee Rutherford in 2011.[3] He absolutely still has that "radio voice".

[1] https://www.dandb.com/businessdirectory/towercommunicationsg...

[2] https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyadvocate/obituary.asp...

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQqoQL3pkyI

jedberg · 5 years ago
In case anyone is looking, here is a Christmas tape to get you in the mood. It even includes the ads!

https://archive.org/details/KmartDecember1992

agloeregrets · 5 years ago
What I find kinda strange in American Culture (as an American) is that the rest of the pop music tapes are pretty much just period music that no modern kid would recognize.

The Christmas tape is a 100% known landscape. We let hits die but Christmas music is eternal.

cfmcdonald · 5 years ago
One could argue that the whole point of traditions like Christmas is to have comforting, repeated experiences like listening to the same music each year, something to ground your mortality in timeless rituals that started before you were born and (you hope) will continue after you die.

That said, there is lots of Christmas pop that doesn't make it into the canon. I have no recollection at all of the first song on the Christmas tape, and i was around then (and going to K-Mart with my mom).

jedberg · 5 years ago
I think it's a combination of copyright and licensing.

The pop music they use on these tapes are cheap to license --- they weren't even popular when they were contemporary. They were just generic cheap music.

For Christmas, there is a set of Christmas music that just gets played every year and is licensed in blocks that are fairly cheap. That's why you hear a lot of "traditional standards" and not much else.

makeworld · 5 years ago
unangst · 5 years ago
K-Mart’s only Black Friday Instagram post was a picture of an end-cap featuring Spider-Man, Frozen and BABY YODA masks. https://twitter.com/unangst/status/1332526873130229760?s=21