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brzozowski · 5 years ago
The paper has some nice illustrations in case anyone is interested in reading about it in more detail: https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1093/zoolinnean/zlaa06...
themodelplumber · 5 years ago
Whoa, that map on page 2 reminds me of some 1990s tabletop RPGs. Right down to the naming style.
cheerlessbog · 5 years ago
That paper is a beautiful thing: 86 pages full of hand stippled line drawings.
neolog · 5 years ago
I wonder why they're using illustrations instead of 3D models.
AlotOfReading · 5 years ago
They probably had an illustrator already availabile and didn't want to make an unrealistic secondary model while fighting the modeling/rendering toolchain to do so.
Someone · 5 years ago
Drawings can better show what the bones look like than photographs (https://thenode.biologists.com/illustrators-see-camera-cant/...)

I would think that is true for “drawing vs 3D model”, too, but of course, 3D models could be used to check the interpretation by the illustrator.

jazzyjackson · 5 years ago
Not everybody's got a high res 3D scanner laying around
Hokusai · 5 years ago
Used to many 2 pager papers, at 86 pages this paper feels more like a book than a paper.
HenryKissinger · 5 years ago
Can someone recommend (non-fiction) books about dinosaurs that are scientifically accurate and aimed at a college educated but non-expert audience?
toufka · 5 years ago
"The Rise & Fall of the Dinosaurs" by Steve Brusatte is a great book that describes chronologically the beginning of dinosaurs through their end - by means of a young scientist telling about his various digs in his own (non-chronologically) experience. One thing I found important and unique about it was that it put the dinosaurs in the context of their geological environment.

It's relatively up to date, easily accessible, teaches quite a bit, and is fun.

Birds are dinosaurs...

dilippkumar · 5 years ago
Not a book, but I enjoyed this talk from The Royal Institute:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-jD7kQvyPs

cbsks · 5 years ago
That was a good talk! The speaker (David Hone) plugs his book at the end “The Tyrannosaur Chronicles: The Biology of the Tyrant Dinosaurs”
eru · 5 years ago
Thanks!

I remember being in that very room and attending some talks a few years ago. Good times.

fuzzythinker · 5 years ago
You're in luck. We have 2 such books today. Other than "Rise & Fall of Dinosaurs" mentioned, "Dinosaurs Rediscovered: The Scientific Revolution in Paleontology" is a good one too.
devnonymous · 5 years ago
I just finished reading the first couple of volumes of Larry Gonick's Cartoon History of the Universe and have learned a lot about dinosaurs from that.
Tagbert · 5 years ago
Not a book, but there is also the excellent “PBS Eons” series on YouTube that has a lot of videos on dinosaurs.
kace91 · 5 years ago
I wonder: since we have skeletons of living species, and the living animals themselves, couldn't we theoretically train a model to go from bones to pictures of the animal (or 3D models or whatever), and then apply it to dinosaur skeletons to see what comes up? Is there any way that could end up getting us somewhat realistic depictions?
shreyansj · 5 years ago
Honest question - what has stopped us from bringing extinct dinosaurs back to life? Which variable in the equation is unsolved?
eru · 5 years ago
TeMPOraL · 5 years ago
On top of what the article says, even if we had pristine dinosaur DNA, the way we clone things is through a living host - so whatever we'd clone would be half-dinosaur, half-cow, or half-whatever animal volunteered a womb/egg.
TheBigSalad · 5 years ago
Frogs my bro
thdrdt · 5 years ago
The youngest dinosaur fossil found is estimated to be 65 million years old.

The oldest DNA sample is estimated to be 800,000 years old.

So we simply don't have DNA from a dinosaur.

simcop2387 · 5 years ago
DNA. There's no recoverable DNA to be discovered after that long, pretty much regardless of how it might have been preserved.
crtasm · 5 years ago
On this topic, I really enjoy talks from Jack Horner.

https://www.ted.com/talks/jack_horner_building_a_dinosaur_fr...

DougN7 · 5 years ago
Wait, this is the first complete dinosaur skeleton ever found?! What have I been looking at in museums?
SNACKeR99 · 5 years ago
Possibly the first+N complete skeleton ever found. The first was over 160 years ago.
Melting_Harps · 5 years ago
Hey, that's all well and good; but can someone get some web development work for Alexandra? This her bio/profile:

https://sci-hub.tw/alexandra

WilTimSon · 5 years ago
Honestly, that end section with illustrations and links (I presume to her blog posts) is some of the prettiest web desin I've seen. Glad to see the creator of Sci-Hub is so skilled, her service has helped me out many times.
p1necone · 5 years ago
The waving gif link in the sci hub page posted by another commenter is excellent.
joshxyz · 5 years ago
LMFAO that's cool

If you click the gif it redirects to a page where there's a bigger version, where if you that gif it becomes a video and she talks a bit.

EDIT: The page it redirects to, https://sci-hub.tw/alexandra

amatecha · 5 years ago
Heh, that gif is like the most human touch I've seen on a website in ages. Great stuff. :)
codetrotter · 5 years ago
Which gif, and where?