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Santosh83 · 6 years ago
They're really pushing the Paint3D app, the Mixed Reality Viewer and the Photos app to take over Paint's roles and beyond. As for Wordpad they probably will deprecate and disable to gently nudge people to online Office 365 cloud subscriptions. Another reason I suppose is to decouple these apps from Windows system so their replacements can be updated through the store instead of waiting for OS feature updates.
nathanaldensr · 6 years ago
Paint3D is an atrocious, poorly-designed app. Tools are all over the place, familiar shortcuts have disappeared, and the UI looks like it was designed for the Windows 8 vision of Windows-on-a-tablet. No thanks. WIN+R, mspaint, ENTER--every time.
m-p-3 · 6 years ago
Paint.NET is a worthy replacement to MSPaint, and I'm glad it exists. It IMO manage to balance simplicity and features that is quite accessible to an average user.
leeoniya · 6 years ago
> WIN+R, mspaint, ENTER--every time.

i prefer https://www.getpaint.net/

falcor84 · 6 years ago
WIN+R, pbrush, ENTER => save yourself one keystroke :)
arminiusreturns · 6 years ago
Use rufus to burn a linux iso and install over the top. No more windows. Really need something? Run it in wine.

Break away from Microsofts abusive ecosystem.

zamadatix · 6 years ago
Outside of Paint3D I don't think any of those were/are related to the classic mspaint. Mixed reality is new (and not really related to paint) but Photos was clearly there to supplant Windows Photo Viewer.
Jedd · 6 years ago
> As you can see in the above screenshot, a system reboot is required to uninstall Paint and WordPad.

This is spectacular, and I'm consumed with curiosity wrt what's going on under the hood when you remove these two programmes.

More than just changes to file associations, natch.

Along with:

> The size of Microsoft Paint is 6.68 MB and WordPad occupies 6.25 MB ...

... and my curiosity extends to what kind of non-enterprise user (ie. someone who has to attend to this step manually) would bother.

seieste · 6 years ago
My predictions

Sometime within the next 2 years, Microsoft will release Word3D, which will be a text editor written in Electron and which will consume 100MB of memory to edit a 1KB text file.

cm2187 · 6 years ago
And will reset your default application settings on every update to shove that monstrosity down your throat.
askvictor · 6 years ago
Back in the 90s I used to make fun of emacs for being a text editor that took up 20MB of disk space.
yunruse · 6 years ago
Ah yes, who can forget Eighteen Megabytes And Constant Swapping? IIRC it comes from the Lispy environment that lends it its scriptability. Memory is cheap nowadays so we can afford to be less suave and use the multi-purpose well-rounded duct tape that is Javascript
juststeve · 6 years ago
consume_your_RAM_and_give_us_money.exe
thomasqm · 6 years ago
VS code?
jotm · 6 years ago
It's been a loooong time since I used them. Sometimes, maybe on a fresh install, maybe when Win10 has decided to reset your defaults, there's that rare .rtf, .nfo, .bmp or some other file that awakens WordPad or Paint from their deep slumber in the depths of Microsoft Hell.

Presumably, Cthulhu comes next, which is why it's vital to hit the X button as soon as possible and stave off the apocalypse.

chrisseaton · 6 years ago
Makes sense - if you don’t need them why have them installed. I wish operating systems had better ways to let you install less stuff.
Dylan16807 · 6 years ago
It doesn't make sense. Paint and notepad provide basic functionality and are less than a megabyte (and the size could be optimized more). Making them optional provides zero real-world benefit, with the downside that now some systems now have no way to edit a text file.
chrisseaton · 6 years ago
Aren’t we talking about WordPad, not NotePad? I don’t think editing images is basic functionality for most users!
binarycrusader · 6 years ago
Making them optional provides zero real-world benefit, with the downside that now some systems now have no way to edit a text file.

Consider that unused features don't need to be downloaded, reduce OS footprint, reduce update downtime, and reduce bandwidth usage during updates all of which can benefit both the customer and the supplier.

Also consider that not all environments need specific functionality or may purposefully want to remove it for a variety of reasons.

binarycrusader · 6 years ago
They’re not especially when you include localization and 32 and 64 bit versions needed for app compat.
ChrisSD · 6 years ago
This isn't about having a minimal install. It merely removes links to paint and Wordpad.

> This change does not remove Paint or WordPad from Windows 10, but you can now disable both apps and also remove traces of these apps from the Start Menu and other locations.

I suspect it's done because they consider Paint and Wordpad to be deprecated and want to help discourage use.

Someone1234 · 6 years ago
If only Paint 3D wasn't a buggy convoluted mess.

Paint, to me, is like Notepad. A very low level tool to accomplish basic image manipulation, like Notepad is a low level tool to accomplish basic text manipulation.

I never see either tool going away. I have better tools installed (e.g. Paint.Net) but still go to Paint for basic image manipulation/cropping, because it is fast/simple.

binarycrusader · 6 years ago
This isn't about having a minimal install. It merely removes links to paint and Wordpad.

The article is inaccurate. Removing these will actually remove files from the system and not just links.

I suspect it's done because they consider Paint and Wordpad to be deprecated and want to help discourage use.

This is definitely not the reason.

tinus_hn · 6 years ago
Now are the Candy Crush ads going to be optional?
ChrisSD · 6 years ago
They actually are but it's on by default. The setting is called "Show suggestions occasionally in Start".
grawprog · 6 years ago
I'm sure wordpad and paint will come back when they find a way to cram IAPs into them. On that note...no...no I doubt candy crush will be going anywhere.
alerighi · 6 years ago
They should not preinstall any software, and let you install them at the first boot. Windows 10 comes with so much bloatware preinstalled that you then have to waste time to remove, I want just nothing.
Santosh83 · 6 years ago
Well a fresh Windows install actually contains far less apps or useful software compared to a typical Linux distribution install. The bloat is almost certainly because of OEM rubbish.

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sedatk · 6 years ago
They had to open up space for Candy Crush Saga.
haunter · 6 years ago
Yeah like 90% of the live Linux distros would be much smaller if they cut GIMP and LibreOffice
ta999999171 · 6 years ago
But those 10% are still available for your choosing...?
butz · 6 years ago
How about adding option to customize "additional features" during Windows installation, like it was in Windows 98?
vezycash · 6 years ago
Microsoft is confused.
modzu · 6 years ago
how about candy crush???