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harry8 · 9 years ago
Most Atlassian users are not thier customers. Their users' employers are the customer. This appeals to the customer who doesn't actually have to use this stuff. "ooh pretty".

Those of us stuck with Atlassian refusing to fix their garbage, differing markdown syntaxes, removal of stratight text in favour of rich gui brokeness and the unrelenting S L O W...

Yeah we won't be so impressed by it.

Fix your junk. I can't threaten to leave - the choice isn't mine to do so. The only choice I have is to complain in public. Just like the public service. Go Atlassian! Hooray! User hatred achievement unlocked!

unixhero · 9 years ago
Complain all you want.

But I have clients who force the use of Sharepoint, and emails for team collaboration.

Coming over to a client with atlassian stack on premise or in the cloud, is like a peachy holiday in comparison. /anecdote.

/question At massive [project] scale; what would you rather recommend to use than Jira and Confluence for the project lifecycle, functional collaboration, technical collaboration, development, CI, and CD?

ganeshkrishnan · 9 years ago
For my startup I found gitlab to be a massive help from managing our repos to CI integration and task management
ethomson · 9 years ago
Visual Studio Team Services. I'm not sure what you mean by "massive" but VSTS is the only service that handles the truly massive projects, like Microsoft Windows. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/bharry/2017/05/24/the-large...

Edited to add ObDisclaimer: I work on the VSTS team.

mrmondo · 9 years ago
My vote would easily go to Gitlab w/ Gitlab CI
mrmondo · 9 years ago
I couldn’t agree more, I absolutely /hate/ when I have to use their products, especially Jira or bitbucket. They’re so awfully clunky and slow, they seem to lack any understanding of workflow or UX design and they’re so JavaScript heavy that many parts of the UI are flaky at the best of times.
veidr · 9 years ago
I’m in your same boat.

I know there must be objectively worse companies out there, like Monsanto and whatever cover name Blackwater is operating under nowadays.

But there is no company on earth that could make me personally happier by going out of business than Atlassian could.

pedalpete · 9 years ago
I really like how they've tried to come up with a consistent design for each product logo.

Unfortunately, I feel the 'A' isn't as unique as the original Atlas holding the world The 'A' is much more generic. The curve, fairly subtle at small sizes.

I'm not a designer, how do designers feel about this? Am I looking at it wrong?

paulryanrogers · 9 years ago
As a would-be designer turned developer I'd say their old icons were good enough. IMO colors and logotype consistency are probably more important.

Soaking of text... maybe consistent defaults for markup among products would more appreciated than anything.

lanbanger · 9 years ago
>" Like us, you may notice important symbolism around teams in the new Atlassian logo – two people high-fiving, a mountain ready for teams to scale, or even the letter A formed from two pillars reinforcing each other."

Oh god, really? _really_?

devopsproject · 9 years ago
Yes. These people are so far removed from the actual products they create that you get this type of drivel. I can't imagine how much time was wasted with all this.
yakult · 9 years ago
New Atlassian logo is better than the old logo. Old one always looked more like an unimportant decorative element than logo.

I totally agree about the hate on rich markup replacing plaintext, though. Entirely counterproductive and stinks of excess engineers syndrome.

edparry · 9 years ago
Their new logo screams airline to me - I can only see it on the side of an aircraft.
jackvalentine · 9 years ago
Is it just me, or do other people have a sort-of branding/design language fatigue now?

I simply could not give a shit about the thought processes behind a company's branding any more, but 5 years ago it was very interesting.

devopsproject · 9 years ago
You grew up and realized it barely matters.
grzm · 9 years ago
Discussion from earlier today (16 comments):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15219658

pcurve · 9 years ago
I was ready to take shit on their rebranding effort as unnecessary waste, but I have to say the new product logos are nicely done.

I would've kept the old Atlassian logo however.