Does any other country do this? Are they going to start now that the US is doing it?
It's definitely put me right off traveling to the US with a smartphone or a computer.
The strange thing is: don't they already have quite a lot of this information? Isn't that what the whole fight with the NSA is about? Is this just a very high profile way of intimidating dissidents?
It's normalizing the invasion of privacy. If you subject everyone to it, then it becomes the new normal.
My parents grew up in a communist republic, and every phone call would begin with "this conversation is being monitored" said by the operator(and yes, the operator would listen in and report you to the secret police if you said something suspicious). Initially people were upset and then they didn't care, because you couldn't call anyone in any other way, so you had to accept that every conversation was being listened to.
I wonder how long before social media services begin to offer a dead man switch equivalent whereby all private communication is deleted given a user defined 'wrong' password that grants access to the account?
Given that most American social media and telecom companies seem to go above and beyond to cooperate with US intelligence and law enforcement (Room 641A, PRISM, etc.) I think it's more likely that there will be a switch that dumps all private communication directly to an NSA server on demand.
So it's not purely tied to the recent political changes. The US Department of Homeland Security has wanted this for a while.
Either way, it's terrible. It goes against the terms of service for almost all online service providers, it opens up another avenue for customs to frame you by using your account to post messages/view controversial content, it's a massive privacy risk and it mostly punishes people who are both small time enough and honest enough to only have one account per service to hand over.
"You will not share your password (or in the case of developers, your secret key), let anyone else access your account, or do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account."
"do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account"
Logging in using a common combinations of browser, OS, machine, keyboard, environment also jeopardizes the security of your account. Exploits, keyloggers, onlookers, etc.
Does violating the terms of service trigger anything, or is just something that Facebook can use against you, should it be needed?
This is the first step and after that putting your online passwords will be a mandatory step of accessing the US whether you need a Visa or not.
The next step will be a mandatory access of all your online accounts (emails, social media, etc) by the government for US Citizens.
I'm not a US citizen and I don't live there. But if you can't see this coming, then you have been successfully frightened by the system and sold on "terrorism".
As we mentioned in our trainings. In some contexts and threat models it might be worth certain individuals building their fake secondary social media presence profiles and creating a pattern of life for them, for just this reason.
It doesn't help though, because the form will ask for all online social media accounts, so if you fail to mention your real one it will either get you in trouble straight away, or at some undefined point in the future. Say you go to US for work, give them a fake account, then 10 years later you want to apply for citizenship and you can't, because 10 years earlier you lied on your entry form.
We're out of stocks entirely, and are doing as much as we can to avoid directing money to the US government while these serial liars have it in their grasp. We're not buying things unless we absolutely need them.
The United State has begun a long, downward spiral at the hands of the comically-unqualified Mr. Trump. Every day that America refuses to reckon with this problem – Mr. Trump's serial lying, his nepotism, his increasingly-eratic behavior, and the dangerous Lenninist "destroy everything" views of his surrogate Bannon – the harder it becomes to undo.
Donald Trump is a serial liar, a bully, a probable sex offender, and carries with him a following of christian dominionists who are (a) in possession of nuclear weapons and (b) desperately want a war with a billions-strong religion they've decided to wage was on, via the doctrine of collective punishment.
Labor is a type of capital. Trumpism, meet capital flight.
I'm a US citizen (born and raised in California), I just moved to Saigon 3 months ago. I never want to go back, especially now because of all of what is happening.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13600704
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13598505
It's definitely put me right off traveling to the US with a smartphone or a computer.
The strange thing is: don't they already have quite a lot of this information? Isn't that what the whole fight with the NSA is about? Is this just a very high profile way of intimidating dissidents?
e.g. https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/flying-home-abroad-bo...
My parents grew up in a communist republic, and every phone call would begin with "this conversation is being monitored" said by the operator(and yes, the operator would listen in and report you to the secret police if you said something suspicious). Initially people were upset and then they didn't care, because you couldn't call anyone in any other way, so you had to accept that every conversation was being listened to.
- It taxes its citizens and permanent residents abroad.
- It doesn't require employers to give vacation time, sick leave, personal leave or parental leave.
- Other nearby countries have to clear incoming travellers with it before they can allow them on a plane to their territory.
Just off the top of my head.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/28/us-custom...
So it's not purely tied to the recent political changes. The US Department of Homeland Security has wanted this for a while.
Either way, it's terrible. It goes against the terms of service for almost all online service providers, it opens up another avenue for customs to frame you by using your account to post messages/view controversial content, it's a massive privacy risk and it mostly punishes people who are both small time enough and honest enough to only have one account per service to hand over.
Facebook for example: https://www.facebook.com/terms Section 4, number 8:
"You will not share your password (or in the case of developers, your secret key), let anyone else access your account, or do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account."
Logging in using a common combinations of browser, OS, machine, keyboard, environment also jeopardizes the security of your account. Exploits, keyloggers, onlookers, etc.
Does violating the terms of service trigger anything, or is just something that Facebook can use against you, should it be needed?
The next step will be a mandatory access of all your online accounts (emails, social media, etc) by the government for US Citizens.
I'm not a US citizen and I don't live there. But if you can't see this coming, then you have been successfully frightened by the system and sold on "terrorism".
We're out of stocks entirely, and are doing as much as we can to avoid directing money to the US government while these serial liars have it in their grasp. We're not buying things unless we absolutely need them.
The United State has begun a long, downward spiral at the hands of the comically-unqualified Mr. Trump. Every day that America refuses to reckon with this problem – Mr. Trump's serial lying, his nepotism, his increasingly-eratic behavior, and the dangerous Lenninist "destroy everything" views of his surrogate Bannon – the harder it becomes to undo.
Donald Trump is a serial liar, a bully, a probable sex offender, and carries with him a following of christian dominionists who are (a) in possession of nuclear weapons and (b) desperately want a war with a billions-strong religion they've decided to wage was on, via the doctrine of collective punishment.
Labor is a type of capital. Trumpism, meet capital flight.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/02/invasive-digital-borde...