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zakhary commented on GBC Boot Animation 88×31 Web Button   zakhary.dev/blog/gbc-web-... · Posted by u/zakhary
kristopolous · a month ago
huh? 1 bit transparent gifs of the 80s? I didn't make that claim. There's two gif standards, GIF87a and GIF89a they were by compuserve. 89a introduced transparency. Netscape Navigator 2.0 introduced support for animated looping GIFs in 1995, this was the game changer.

GIF wasn't a widely used raster format of the 1980s. That would be PCX, MSP (pre BMP), PIC (Macintosh PICT), IMG (GEM), TIFF, Dr. Halo (CUT/PAL), TARGA...

None of the 1980s image formats are in use anymore except for Postscript which is a programming language so it doesn't really count. The TIFF of the 1980s (the kind that NextStep generates for instance) won't even open in modern imagemagick with libtiff stripping that support 15 years ago (along with a lot of other companies ebullient artistic license of the TIFF standard). Modern TIFF uses standards dated post 2000.

If you need to open a TIF dated from the 1980s, hit me up, I've had to resurrect these parsers before.

zakhary · a month ago
Oops my bad. I assumed they were from late 80s since I was under the impression the 88x31s were popularized by a Netscape button from ~93. (But I could be completely mistaken about that; I’m by no means an expert.)

Regardless, this is really interesting!

zakhary commented on GBC Boot Animation 88×31 Web Button   zakhary.dev/blog/gbc-web-... · Posted by u/zakhary
kristopolous · a month ago
They're earlier. There's basically 3 design eras. The first used 1 bit transparent gifs (i used those on my bootstra386.com site)

The second had 40x40 buttons, then the third had 88x31...

Ironically the best place to find this evidence is in books. Head on over to archive.org, find some mass market "how to use the web" books and they're full of screenshots.

You could also do wayback machine but during the "folk art" era of the web, there was long forgotten web properties run by "just some person" with names like "web fairy's daily roundup" with these long links like homesite.unc.edu/~rhonda/links.htm or whatever.

The fetishism for dot coms is probably post-1997

When you go through these old texts it's a sea of sites you have never heard of. Some of those are in the wayback, a lot of them aren't.

You can clearly see the eras. There's also some promotional videos such as

https://youtu.be/-1l6aBgX5UY?si=UioQTDenqHelQc07

88x31 is where most of the effort has been placed on the archives and so I kind of just pass over that one

The last thing is the hypercard cross-over ... there were many users and creators that went from that platform to the web and they took their hypercard design language with them.

The 88x31 might be called the first post-hypercard era.

zakhary · a month ago
Really interesting history, I didn't know about the 1-bit transparent gifs of the 80s!
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roskelld · a month ago
I've missed Web buttons. I remember entire movements done using them back in the mid 90's. There were some boycotts where people would put the buttons on their site to show support.

I also remember the ones proudly showing that their web page was written in Notepad or even Edit instead of some bloat ridden Frontpage or other generator site.

This was a really fun read. Will sub to your rss!

zakhary · a month ago
Thanks so much! Hopefully I'll post more on my blog this year
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K2h · a month ago
Excellent writeup. Thank yiu for showing the details step by step.
zakhary · a month ago
Thanks! I'm glad people appreciated seeing my process for this silly little project
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catskull · a month ago
Very nicely done! Great blog as well, I’ve subbed to your RSS.
zakhary · a month ago
Thank you! I don't post as often as I'd like to, but I'm hoping to blog more this year
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austinallegro · a month ago
Great work!

Also, Nintendo lawsuit incoming in 3...2...

zakhary · a month ago
Thanks!

> Also, Nintendo lawsuit incoming in 3...2...

Lol I sure hope not

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mysterydip · a month ago
I love the comeback of web buttons. And pages like this that go into great detail of such a niche thing.
zakhary · a month ago
Thanks for the kind words! :)
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looperhacks · a month ago
Cool post!

The capture process sounds much more complicated than necessary. There are emulators that can capture the output as APNG/GIF/... If you really want to make sure that you have every frame, a good emulator also supports manual frame stepping without having to use the debugger.

zakhary · a month ago
Thank you!

Yeah I definitely could have improved the capture method. It happens to be that I'm already familiar enough with GBZ80 assembly, but given how tedious taking the actual screenshots was I would opt for a less complicated solution in the future.

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