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yolo2122 commented on Bench accounting services shutting down   bench.co/... · Posted by u/knuckleheads
ttul · 8 months ago
I advise caution in believing his statements to be true, particularly about Bench’s board and investors. The truth will live in their financial statements, which no doubt will be revealed in bankruptcy proceedings in the coming months.
yolo2122 · 8 months ago
I agree that the financial statements will be a key artifact of truth + I cannot speak to the validity of the statements made by Ian as I have no context or knowledge of Bench outside of my experience of being a long time customer.

However I can, albeit anecdotally from my perspective, say that I felt there was a marked difference in Bench's quality/service/responsiveness/performance/etc about 3yrs ago. This aligns with the timeline given by the former CEO in his post for his departure.

yolo2122 commented on Bench accounting services shutting down   bench.co/... · Posted by u/knuckleheads
jnwatson · 8 months ago
Perhaps I'm old school, but how hard is it to hire a bookkeeper part time, a CPA a few times a year, and use Quickbooks? Was there some special value that Bench provided?
yolo2122 · 8 months ago
Been there done that several times over. One PT bookkeeper would only do books if they also got paid to process payroll which like the books was always behind. They did a good job on the books but I have small brick and mortar biz's. While I can wait a bit for books I can't to get my employees paid correctly, once someone's payroll isn't right/paychecks take longer/etc it gets heated.

Another would produce books that required a lot of work from my CPA which made the CPA a lot more expensive.

I've had it pretty easy - friends of mine have had PT/local bookkeepers do every form of damage you can think of - it's a messy world for SMB books. And those are nothing compared to the carnage I've observed small biz's with an employee PT or FT in house doing the books.

yolo2122 commented on Bench accounting services shutting down   bench.co/... · Posted by u/knuckleheads
ocdtrekkie · 8 months ago
Hopefully you'll get an answer from Conrad, but the landing page does not mention the shutdown, so I would point out when I was comparison shopping something else recently, their website had dedicated pages to why you should choose them over each major competitor, and a switching discount is also not uncommon.

It's entirely possible this landing page is Kick's competitive offer, and Bench linked to it because it offers all the people they just screwed over by collapsing a discount.

yolo2122 · 8 months ago
Good point! I like what I see so far in Kick. It's just given the level of pain Bench has just caused me, my businesses, and a couple very unlucky employees in my office + the financial cost = I have to make super duper sure Kick is not related to/involved with Bench in any way shape or form.

If they asked Kick to be listed as an alternative in the closure email or asked them to do a discount nbd I have no issue there. I just want the full story given Bench events.

yolo2122 commented on Bench accounting services shutting down   bench.co/... · Posted by u/knuckleheads
conradwa · 8 months ago
Kick is not affiliated with Bench in any way. We've onboarded a significant number of customers from Bench onto Kick before this happened, so this may have been why were were mentioned.

We're working fast right now to try to provide resources and help Bench users migrate and will be sharing updates here: https://x.co/kickfinance

yolo2122 · 8 months ago
Thanks Conrad however in the interest of clarity + transparency can you add some insight/details into how/why this statement came about in both the shut down email customers got today + what is currently posted on the Bench.co page?

"For continued support with your bookkeeping, we recommend exploring Kick, a modern accounting software, which has created an exclusive offer to handle your ongoing needs: kick.co/bench."

Having an "exclusive offer" listed in the initial closure communication/announcement + you having a landing page ready to go sounds like there was more to Bench just happening to mention Kick because your company has "onboarded a significant number of customers from Bench onto Kick before this happened"...

yolo2122 commented on Bench accounting services shutting down   bench.co/... · Posted by u/knuckleheads
yolo2122 · 8 months ago
Founder/Former CEO Ian Crosby's post about the Bench closure:

https://x.com/ianwcrosby/status/1872724231999381790

yolo2122 commented on Bench accounting services shutting down   bench.co/... · Posted by u/knuckleheads
conradwa · 8 months ago
I can’t imagine the frustration you’re going through if you’re a Bench user.

Paying for a service and not getting what you expect, especially when it comes to your taxes is no joke.

Instead of having to start from scratch, our team at Kick is moved quickly to build these resources to help prior Bench customers:

1. Free Bench migration

2. Free 2024 Bookkeeping review calls

3. Free Daily Live Q&As (coming soon)

We’re moving fast and sharing additional resources and updates in real time here:

- https://kick.co/bench

- https://x.com/kickfinance

Other resources on the way include a Tax Extension Guide and Accountant Directory to make sure folks get a soft landing is this difficult time.

If you're running into issues, my email me at conrad@kick.co and I’ll do the best I can to route you to the right place.

yolo2122 · 8 months ago
Is Kick owned by, affiliated with, or invested in by Bench in any way?

Also are any of the C-Level execs from Bench involved in Kick in any way?

yolo2122 commented on Bench accounting services shutting down   bench.co/... · Posted by u/knuckleheads
yolo2122 · 8 months ago
Does shutting down mean bankruptcy? My businesses will have real damages from this - both the money that has been paid to bench all year for now no output of annual books/a financial summary as well as the cost of now having to pay to redo my 2024 books.
yolo2122 commented on The Last Question   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The... · Posted by u/thewarpaint
yolo2122 · 3 years ago
Rogan did the cliff notes best:

https://youtu.be/qgf9Eqka5fw

u/yolo2122

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