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Readit Newswmlive commented on Obituary for António Lobo Antunes theguardian.com/books/202... · Posted by u/Archelaos
It would help your question if you'd more clearly define what you intent to discuss about. Remote mindreading is still not a very common skill among the typical HN public.
Or do you expect people first google for some of the keywords you provided?
wmlive commented on We are building a new browser from scratch, backed by a non-profit ladybird.org/... · Posted by u/nailer
Someone is also working on GNUstep integration for this browser:
https://github.com/pkgdemon/ladybird/issues/1
https://old.reddit.com/r/gnustep/comments/1q0pdd6/ladybird_p...
wmlive commented on Window Maker Live 13.2 brings 32-bit life to Debian 13 theregister.com/2025/12/0... · Posted by u/wmlive
Maybe a bit more noteworthy is that this finally also includes a proper ARM64 version. And it installs and runs fine also on a Pinebook Pro.
I'd wish there was a Midnight Commander available for Android that would allow for being used during an adb shell or ssh session. Ghost Commander doesn't cover that use case, sadly.
The current best GNUstep distro is WMlive: https://sourceforge.net/projects/wmlive/
It's based on Debian Bookworm.
Glad you like it and thanks for the recommendation!
Nonetheless, being the maintainer of this project, i'd like to point out that this is no dedicated GNUstep distro, but a mostly Debian based distribution using a thoroughly preconfigured Window Maker as its primary user interface, and that just happens to have the whole range of available GNUstep applications added on.
As already written elsewhere[3], citing my own words, this is a better characterization of its scope:
»Window Maker is just a highly compatible X11 window manager and is supposed to work as such. There is no interest to specifically integrate it with the provided GNUstep applications, as this is not supposed to be predominantly a GNUstep desktop. The included GNUstep applications are just an addon to give people a practical way to verify what GNUstep has to offer. In fact, wmlive would be perfectly usable without providing any single GNUstep application. The freedom and flexibility provided by an X11 window manager instead of the walled garden of a specific desktop system is much more preferable to many Linux users. NeXT nostalgists might want to look elsewhere. [1][2]«
People who's interest has been sufficiently piqued to download wmlive are advised to better wait until after Debian's bookwom 12.12 point release this saturday. A final bookworm based wmlive release will be uploaded shortly after. This will also be the last and final 32bit i386 variant of wmlive. After that work on an exclusively amd64 trixie based wmlive variant will begin.
[1] https://github.com/trunkmaster/nextspace
wmlive commented on Modern Debian-based Window Maker distribution wmlive.sourceforge.net/... · Posted by u/Aldipower
Ultimately, the GNUstep project should have taken on the burden of porting whatever could be kept from Windowmaker into the GNUstep world, and made a complete solution to compete with GNOME / KDE with a chance of also making it easier to write an app for both OS X and Linux using much of the same underpinnings (Objective-C, etc).
A lot of really great work went into GNUstep but looking back... for what? It would have needed so many more resources than it had to ever have a chance at becoming something like the above.
Maybe with AI, one day it will be easy enough to pick some of these ideas back up and run with them.
We are not really in a position to dictate what the GNUstep project ought to do. I for one am rather thankful for what they have achieved so far. Especially since they seem to mainly lack the man power which its critics probably won't provide either.
Not being a software developer myself, I've resorted to loosely following the progress of GNUstep over more than 20 years, in the hope that it will eventually become a viable option. But apparently capable people found more interest in KDE, GNOME, and similar projects based on either Qt or gtk+, and then hardly anyone cared anymore.
By all means, if anyone here is capable enough is wanting to still contribute to the GNUstep project, please do! At the current stage of the project it would be a pity if all the efforts made over the years would be wasted by not supporting it anymore.
wmlive commented on Modern Debian-based Window Maker distribution wmlive.sourceforge.net/... · Posted by u/Aldipower
Does Window Maker work with Wayland?
You'd need something like Wayback[1] in Wayland to be able to use it. Being exclusivley an X11 window manager, there is no direct support for Wayland.
There is a Wayland compositor namend wlmaker[2] that tries to mimick Window Maker. But judging by its description it still appears to be a far cry from that Window Maker offers.
wmlive commented on Modern Debian-based Window Maker distribution wmlive.sourceforge.net/... · Posted by u/Aldipower
I've wished for a better WindowMaker experience for years -- and that more places would adopt the distribution solution that NeXT and its children adopted.
Is it perfect? No, but it's sure a step closer to an ideal than whatever .so hell that we came up with before.
Development of Window Maker (as in the window manager) unfortunately seems to be almost abandoned. The last few years of it's development saw the inclusion of rather superfluous additional features (e.g., screen capture, hot corners) instead of concentrating on it's main purpose of being a window manager.
It's a pity no one ever tried to replace the WINGs widget set with actual GNUstep components, thus adding the full GNUstep themeability WINGs is not capable of, in order to finally get rid of that crufty NeXTSTEP look.