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wilsmex commented on I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude   j0nah.com/i-failed-to-rec... · Posted by u/thecr0w
masswerk · 9 days ago
Hum, table cells provide the max-width and images a min-with, heights are absolute (with table cells spilling over, as with CCS "overflow-y: visible"), aligns and maybe HSPACE and VSPACE attributes do the rest. As long as images heights exceed the effective line-height and there's no visible text, this should render pixel perfect on any browser then in use. In this case, there's also an absolute width set for the entire table, adding further constraints. Table layouts can be elastic, with constraints or without, but this one should be pretty stable.

(Fun fact, the most amazing layout foot-guns, then: Effective font sizes and line-heights are subject to platform and configuration (e.g., Win vs Mac); Netscape does paragraph spacing at 1.2em, IE at 1em (if this matters, prefer `<br>` over paragraphs); frames dimensions in Netscape are always calculated as integer percentages of window dimensions, even if you provide absolute dimensions in pixels, while IE does what it says on the tin (a rare example), so they will be the same only by chance and effective rounding errors. And, of course, screen gamma is different on Win and Mac, so your colors will always be messed up – aim for a happy medium.)

wilsmex · 9 days ago
Oh good times, the screen gamma issue got me many times back then, as I was the super odd kid on a Mac in the late 90's (father was in education). I'd pull my beautify crafted table-soup site up on a friends PC later and wonder why all the colors were all wacky!
wilsmex commented on I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude   j0nah.com/i-failed-to-rec... · Posted by u/thecr0w
thecr0w · 9 days ago
Thanks, my friend. I added a strike through of the error, a correction, and credited you.

I'm keeping it in for now because people have made some good jokes about the mistake in the comments and I want to keep that context.

wilsmex · 9 days ago
You bet, Fun post and writeup, took me a bit down memory lane. I built several sites with nested table-based layouts, 1x1 transparent gif files set to strange widths to get layouts to force certain sizes. Little tricks with repeating gradient backgrounds for fancy 'beveled' effects. Under construction GIFs, page counters, GUESTBOOKS!, Photoshop drop-shadows on everything. All the things, fond-times. One or two I haven't touched in 20 years, but keep online for my own time-capsule memory :)
wilsmex commented on I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude   j0nah.com/i-failed-to-rec... · Posted by u/thecr0w
wilsmex · 9 days ago
Well this was interesting. As someone who was actually building similar website in the late 90's I threw this into the Opus 4.5. Note the original author is wrong about the original site however:

"The Space Jam website is simple: a single HTML page, absolute positioning for every element, and a tiling starfield GIF background.".

This is not true, the site is built using tables, not positioning at all, CSS wasn't a thing back then...

Here was its one-shot attempt at building the same type of layout (table based) with a screenshot and assets as input: https://i.imgur.com/fhdOLwP.png

wilsmex commented on Tell HN: Mailgun disabled our domain without notice    · Posted by u/wilsmex
grumpyautist · 5 years ago
https://cuttlefish.io/

If you dont rely on 3rd parties, 3rd parties cannot screw you

wilsmex · 5 years ago
Nice, thanks for the link here
wilsmex commented on Tell HN: Mailgun disabled our domain without notice    · Posted by u/wilsmex
onara · 5 years ago
As for spam from the contact forms, you could look into integrating with https://www.oopspam.com/. It returns score similar to reCaptcha in addition to the outputs from different analyses.
wilsmex · 5 years ago
Thanks for this! Will look into..
wilsmex commented on Tell HN: Mailgun disabled our domain without notice    · Posted by u/wilsmex
sdevonoes · 5 years ago
> We now think (but guessing) our own users were complaining about contact form message spam getting through (as it seems google v2 recaptcha is easily spammed these days).

Interesting. Could you elaborate how your users can get spammed this way?

wilsmex · 5 years ago
We have a sass service where many of our clients have a public facing 'website' where they have a contact form for their visitors. We have google captcha v2 on that form, which is easily bypassed. So spammers are submitting the form bypassing the captcha with typical form spam. We send all of the contact messages to our users via Mailgun as a 'new contact message.' Our users get these spam messages not really realizing they are from their own sites (as they just see the spam in the email) and flag/mark them all as such.
wilsmex commented on Tell HN: Mailgun disabled our domain without notice    · Posted by u/wilsmex
retox · 5 years ago
Seems like a system that could be very easily weaponized.
wilsmex · 5 years ago
I had this exact same thought..
wilsmex commented on Tell HN: Mailgun disabled our domain without notice    · Posted by u/wilsmex
mtmail · 5 years ago
https://postmarkapp.com/ warned us a 0.1% complaint rate. A stern warning. "For transactional email spam complaints should not exceed 10 complaints in 10,000 emails sent and we're seeing much higher in your activity. This is an expectation that many ISPs have set, which we work very hard to uphold. "

We now use their API to forward any complaint to us to doublecheck, we became paranoid to keep the number lower.

We're very happy with postmarkapp.

Somebody was using random IPs, but real email addresses to signup. We don't know why, it never led to pageviews later. Maybe it was an attempt to check which user (email address) clicks the link in the confirmation email of a service they haven't signed up for. I can understand if such users click 'this is spam' which then gets reported back by the big email providers to postmarkapp.

wilsmex · 5 years ago
Thanks for info here. Definitely will look into them. I'll also have to look into if MG has some webhook for complaints, as we're also now suddenly super paranoid about that metric.
wilsmex commented on Show HN: RPI Powered 4K TV Auto Rotating Digital Picture Frame   youtube.com/watch?v=iV8g9... · Posted by u/wilsmex
wilsmex · 5 years ago
Hi HN. Sick of the GME news? Check out my recent project of making a huge digital picture frame from a 4k TV powered by a raspberry pi and some fun hacks.

u/wilsmex

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