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wfhordie commented on Since '67, households making $150K+ (inflation adjusted) grew from 1.8 to 23.8M   twitter.com/jmhorp/status... · Posted by u/KoftaBob
notch656a · 3 years ago
The study you cite shows that "food insecurity" is associated with obesity. Not that it causes obesity.

Study uses questions like: “How often in the past 12 months would you say you were worried or stressed about having enough money to buy nutritious meals?”

By design, this study causes obese people who eat up their food supplies to be more likely to be captured by the study than their less consumptive counterparts, even with equal amount of available food.

I would expect someone who shovels enough food in their mouth to be obese to be the kind of person to spend more than needed for meals (or to end the meal with less spare reserve food), causing them to stress about their overspending. It's not much surprise an obese person shoveling down food is more worried about overspending than the skinny person not shoveling down their hatch until they are the size of Oklahoma. Eating 4000 calories of even the cheapest food like rice and beans costs more than eating 2000 calories worth rice and beans; of course the blimp-sized person eating the 4000 calories of rice and beans is going to stress more about the cost than the person eating 2000 calories of rice and beans.

Put another way, it makes sense to me a food insecure person might say "I will buy 4000 calories worth of rice and beans instead of 2000 calories worth of rice and beans because I am food insecure, then I will save the difference in case food is inaccessible later." An obese person will then eat all 4000 calories and stress about being out of money, and become "food insecure" via this study by answering they're worried. Whereas the skinny person is not gonna stress as much, because they still have 2000 calories worth of rice and beans after their meal is done, and thus be less likely to be classified "food insecure" by the question of this study. That is, the study is designed to capture the obese person as being more food insecure even when they have same food availability of the less obese person.

wfhordie · 3 years ago
Either I’m having a stroke or GPT-3 needs some serious work when the topic is human nutrition.
wfhordie commented on Since '67, households making $150K+ (inflation adjusted) grew from 1.8 to 23.8M   twitter.com/jmhorp/status... · Posted by u/KoftaBob
spywaregorilla · 3 years ago
https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/fo...

~10% of households experience food insecurity in the US. So assume that's a direct overlap, that would be most of the 18%

wfhordie · 3 years ago
That number should piss you off.

The U.S. was by far the leading global agricultural exporter in 2020 with exports valued at $147.9 billion. [0]

And it's not like it's hard to get the food from where it's grown to where it's needed. The US has a navigable waterway system that is smack dab in the middle of both where the food is grown and where it is eaten by the most people. That's not a coincidence.[1]

I'm not playing semantic games about whether the households experiencing food insecurity are 'working poor' 'abject poor' or 'totally fucked poor'. It doesn't matter what you call it, it's a problem that we can solve in this country.

[0]https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/100615/4-cou...

[1]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Inland_w...

wfhordie commented on Since '67, households making $150K+ (inflation adjusted) grew from 1.8 to 23.8M   twitter.com/jmhorp/status... · Posted by u/KoftaBob
CodeSgt · 3 years ago
By no means are 18.1% of the population living in "abject" poverty. They're living in what the US government classifies as poverty, but in the majority of these cases they still have a home, have food, have electricity, etc.

I'm not saying that they're living comfy lives, but when you throw around terms like "abject povery" you're really discrediting people who are actually living in abject poverty.

What are your plans to get the rate below 1%? What would you have done differently that wouldn't have wrecked the economy?

wfhordie · 3 years ago
Ah, I love this game. It's the same one that the super-rich use to convince people barely scraping by -- or anyone who hasn't read Barbara Ehrenreich -- that you should zoom out far enough so that your situation is compared to literal kids with literal flies on their eyeballs. Your life ain't that bad, why you complainin'?

The fact is, this country could fund universal childcare, universal healthcare and universal education from K-16 and not 'wreck the economy.' All it would take is doing what every other industrialized first-world country has done... and done better, with less resources.

And don't worry, the people who you think are actually living in abject poverty aren't reading on HN on a Monday afternoon, so my discredit of their situation will go largely ignored.

wfhordie commented on We are removing the option to create new subscriptions   mullvad.net/en/blog/2022/... · Posted by u/mritzmann
spupe · 3 years ago
That's not necessarily true. A lot of state surveillance comes through having backdoor or legal access to lots of services. Many VPNs have been tested in court on whether they actually have information on you to disclose, and some even have independent audits to verify that such information is not even kept.
wfhordie · 3 years ago
At best, you can hope to make surveilling you more expensive or more inconvenient. But if Snowden taught us anything, it's that whatever you needed to do to get yourself tangled up in the 5/14 eyes trip-wire, you've already done, long ago, and continue to do.

VPNs don't mean shit. You're leaking data everywhere you go. Browser fingerprinting, WiFi/BT signals, cell tower signals, GPS. If you own a smart phone and a credit card you're already fucked.

Let's not confuse things for people by making them think if they plop a 5 Euro VPN between them and their yahoo! email account that this does anything at all to deter state level actors.

VPNs are good for a few things:

(1) Evading state-sponsored censorship (which uses technology minted in good old Silicon Valley) -- where the state doesn't really care unless you're really bothering them

(2) Marginally disrupting the pan-opticon that is surveillance capitalism by mixing the signals a bit, where your ISP can't sell you out to data brokers. But even then... DNS leaks, etc still happen and still fuck with the plan.

(3) Maybe not getting scooped up as badly in the state dragnet, and maybe not being accused of something you actually didn't have anything to do with.

But brother, if you think you're gonna be the next Ross Ulbrich with your Mullvad VPN, then you better be memorizing your recipe for toilet wine because you're gonna land in a fed pen.

wfhordie commented on Since '67, households making $150K+ (inflation adjusted) grew from 1.8 to 23.8M   twitter.com/jmhorp/status... · Posted by u/KoftaBob
bergenty · 3 years ago
Globalization will not collapse. As long as we have free and open trade nothing is really going to kill it.
wfhordie · 3 years ago
>As long as we have free and open trade nothing is really going to kill it.

I've got some really bad news for you, friend. The free trade era is already over and demographic collapse is coming for almost everyone.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/20/free-trade-dead-managed...

wfhordie commented on Since '67, households making $150K+ (inflation adjusted) grew from 1.8 to 23.8M   twitter.com/jmhorp/status... · Posted by u/KoftaBob
refurb · 3 years ago
For whatever reason positive news tends not to play well on HN, even if it’s factual.

But on another point, I recall that the entry of women into the workforce was almost complete by the 70’s so moving from one to two earner household isn’t likely the main driver.

wfhordie · 3 years ago
>For whatever reason positive news tends not to play well on HN, even if it’s factual.

People on HN are very good and detecting when someone is trying to blow sunshine up their ass.

Take, for example, the second part of this tweet:

>Very poor households (< $25K) shrunk from 24.7% to 18.1% (number rose slightly)

That is an abject failure of an economy if I even saw one. 18.1% of households in the most embarrassingly rich country in the history of the planet are living in abject poverty? Even with what you can do with poverty wages nowadays, that fucking sucks.

This rate should be <1%.

wfhordie commented on Since '67, households making $150K+ (inflation adjusted) grew from 1.8 to 23.8M   twitter.com/jmhorp/status... · Posted by u/KoftaBob
ren_engineer · 3 years ago
alternative title: Number of dual income families in the US with both parents forced to work to survive increased since 1967, while also working longer hours

don't piss on my boot and tell me it's raining, almost every observable metric shows living standards have dropped significantly in the US over the past few decades

wfhordie · 3 years ago
And it's all downhill from here. With the collapse of globalization, everything will become cheaper, slower, worse quality, and harder to get.
wfhordie commented on We are removing the option to create new subscriptions   mullvad.net/en/blog/2022/... · Posted by u/mritzmann
causality0 · 3 years ago
Have Mullvad's privacy guarantees been tested by subpoena?
wfhordie · 3 years ago
If your threat model includes nation state intervention, a 5 Euro VPN isn't going to help you. In fact, no VPN is going to help you. The best you can get is probably Tor + Tails, but even then you better be looking over your shoulder.
wfhordie commented on Leaked Audio from TikTok Meetings – US User Data Repeatedly Accessed from China   buzzfeednews.com/article/... · Posted by u/cwwc
midislack · 3 years ago
TikTok is a Chinese spy platform. It was found to be snarfing the clipboard once a second. It was found to be opening reverse proxies to China. It’s an excellent, unparalleled tool to groom and compromise people, most especially children of high value targets. The Chinese and their allies here in the US must be given some props, stopping Trump from banning it was extremely good for China and I would expect all who contributed to the effort to stop its ban have already been rewarded generously.

Hats off to China. THIS is how you conduct warfare in the post-nuclear age.

wfhordie · 3 years ago
100%. Trump should have banned TikTok, and Biden should do it now. Do not wait. Sanction ByteDance.

While we're at it -- kill Grindr too. It was sold off for similar reasons, but it should have been killed long ago.

wfhordie commented on Tesla sends untrained employees to work on cars as service becomes problematic   electrek.co/2022/06/16/te... · Posted by u/heavyset_go
olivermarks · 3 years ago
If BEVs are ever to be mass market that ac beetle model needs to be replicated....
wfhordie · 3 years ago
It already has, in China. China has tons of simple BEVs. Time will tell whether that’s what Americans will want, though.

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