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vsean commented on Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting   bbc.com/news/live/c625ex2... · Posted by u/yakkomajuri
sgalbincea · 6 months ago
Can anyone tell me what the alternative is that would result in less people dying? This needs to stop NOW.
vsean · 6 months ago
> Can anyone tell me what the alternative is that would result in less people dying? This needs to stop NOW.

There's a logical flaw in what you are saying. Forcing Ukraine to accept a truce right now, without any security guarantees will result in a LOT MORE deaths. Russia will re-arm, using their oil and gas money, and in a year finish the job. Right now, Ukraine can hang on, but if Russia gets its shit together during a truce it's game over.

What could happen is that they negotiates a truce with security guarantees from the US or at the very least a no-fly zone. But Trump doesn't want that, Trump doesn't want to do anything, he want mineral rights to offset the cost of the last president gave Ukraine (Not $350 bn, that number is lies, its ~$70bn), asking for $400bn rare earths and other metals. I can only assume he will only give new weapons under the same terms. A shameful shakedown. And even if Ukraine agrees to this, Trump has said he won't enforce a no-fly zone or give a security guarantee.

The best thing Trump and the US can do from now on is just to not get involved in teh war. I can see Trump supporting Putin out of spite.

vsean commented on Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting   bbc.com/news/live/c625ex2... · Posted by u/yakkomajuri
ein0p · 6 months ago
FYI: you can end up in jail for posting "wrong" things on Facebook in Europe and the UK. And the UK doesn't permit backup encryption. As far as freedom of speech, we have a _considerable_ advantage. In some European countries (including, ironically, Ukraine) you wouldn't even be able to criticize the government the way we do it here in the US.
vsean · 6 months ago
Try posting death threat about the US president on FB to see if you broke the law or not, and if it can land you in jail?

> As far as freedom of speech, we have a _considerable_ advantage. In some European countries (including, ironically, Ukraine) you wouldn't even be able to criticize the government the way we do it here in the US.

I'm going to bet that you've never been to Europe and understand that each country has very different laws. Cherry picking some random issues from several different countries and making it seem like it a policy of the entire of the EU is silly.

vsean commented on Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting   bbc.com/news/live/c625ex2... · Posted by u/yakkomajuri
vsean · 6 months ago
You keep saying peace, but if Ukraine stops fighting without security guarantees from countries like the US they get murdered, raped and their children abducted by Russia. How do we know? The war started in 2014, not 2022.

That's the truth that Trump won't acknowledge and common us opinions don't have the understanding of. It's inconvenient and annoying. The only person who can stop this war and bring peace is Putin. Trump could try forcing him, but it's easier just to sacrifice the entire country of Ukraine?!

vsean commented on Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting   bbc.com/news/live/c625ex2... · Posted by u/yakkomajuri
headsman771 · 6 months ago
Zelensky went there under the pretext of signing the mineral deal, but changed his mind before arriving.

He's trying to pressure Trump and America in general into giving Ukraine NATO membership or security guarantees against Russia.

Sorry, but Ukraine, which is not in NATO and thus not entitled to unconditional defense, is not worth starting WW3 over.

Its sickening watching Zelensky and Europe act like my country is obligated to go into unlimited debt or die on the battlefield to protect them.

vsean · 6 months ago
> Zelensky went there under the pretext of signing the mineral deal, but changed his mind before arriving.

That's not true. The agreement that both sides drafted was agreed upon and Zelensky planned on signing it.

> Sorry, but Ukraine, which is not in NATO and thus not entitled to unconditional defense, is not worth starting WW3 over.

No one ever said they needed to. What gives you that impression.

> Its sickening watching Zelensky and Europe act like my country is obligated to go into unlimited debt or die on the battlefield to protect them.

To be clear European NATO partners do expect the US to go unlimited debt or die on the battlefield to protect them. It's called NATO. And the only time it's been used so far was for 911 when all NATO countries came to the US's aid after it was attacked.

As for Ukraine. Firstly the US has give much less than the EU. The number Trump keep pushing, $350BN is lies. Ukraine has seen about $70 Billion. Which Zelensky has thanked the US for on may occasions, notably in front of congress. The US owes no one anything, but is it too much to ask that Trump goes hard on the ones who started the war, Russia, who commited war crimes and abducted children, and continue to bomb civilian areas say after day. Instead of shaking down a country and people at their weakest hour for money that was given to it by the previous president?

vsean commented on A 9.9 CVE has been announced for Linux   twitter.com/howardl3/stat... · Posted by u/alexzeitler
jamwil · a year ago
Announced… where? The tweet has no link and no context.
vsean · a year ago
The post is by the guy that discovered and reported the vulnerability.

u/vsean

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