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vgeek commented on Chatbots are replacing Google's search, devastating traffic for some publishers   wsj.com/tech/ai/google-ai... · Posted by u/jaredwiener
bitpush · 3 months ago
The first part of that statement is valid but the second one isn't.

If anything, most of big tech has shown exceptional humility against new threats

Instagram incorporating stories (Snapchat)

YouTube incorporating Shorts (tiktok)

Google search incorporating AI Mode (perplexity et al)

This is in stark contrast to Kodak and the likes who scoffed at digital camera and phone cameras as distraction. They were sure that their ways were superior, ultimately leading to their demise.

vgeek · 3 months ago
Maybe you misunderstood the scope that Google is a search advertising company first and foremost? Alphabet ignores (yes, they essentially invented transformers, etc.., but actual productive efforts likely correlate to predicted TAM or protecting status quo, answering to shareholders while waiting to acquire threats) a market that will eventually usurp their cash cow of first party search ads, because the new market isn't initially as lucrative due to market size. There is also the consideration of cannibalizing their high margin search ads market with an error prone and resource intensive tech that cannot immediately be monetized in a second price auction (both from inventory and bidder participant perspectives). A $10 billion market for Google would be under 3% of revenue, but if the market grows 10x, it is much more attractive, but now the incumbent may be trailing the nascent companies who refined their offerings (without risk of cannibalizing their own offerings) while said market was growing. We are currently at the stage where Google is incorporating Gemini responses and alienating publishers (by not sending monetizable clicks while using their content) while still focusing on monetization via their traditional ad products elsewhere on the SERPs (text search ads, shopping ads). Keep in mind, they also control 3rd party display ads via DoubleClick and Adsense-- but inventory on 3rd party sites will drop and Google will lose their 30%+ cut if users don't leave the SERPs.

Dozens of major news publications have covered the decline of Google's organic search quality decline and emphasis on monetization (ignoring incorrect infoboxes and AI generated answers). See articles such as https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/09/googl... and a collection even posted here on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30348460 . This has played into reasons why people have shifted away from Google. Their results are focused solely on maximizing Google's earnings per mille, as leaked (https://www.wsj.com/tech/u-s-urges-breakup-of-google-ad-busi...) where the ads team has guanxi over search quality. Once Amit Singhal and Matt Cutts left their roles, the focus on monetization over useful SERPs becomes much more evident.

vgeek commented on Chatbots are replacing Google's search, devastating traffic for some publishers   wsj.com/tech/ai/google-ai... · Posted by u/jaredwiener
spankalee · 3 months ago
Google's damned if they do and damned if the don't here:

- If they don't make search AI centric, they're going to get lapped by AI-first competitors like Perplexity, OpenAI, etc. We saw many people here predict Google's pending demise from this. - If they do make search centric, they're unfairly consuming they world's content and hoarding the user traffic to themselves.

Since no reasonable company is just going to stand by and willing let itself be obsoleted, Google's obviously going to go for option 2. But had they for some reason stood down, then they would have been supplanted by an AI competitor and the headline would read "News Sites Are Getting Crushed by Perplexity" - just a few years later.

vgeek · 3 months ago
We are getting to watch The Innovator's Dilemma play out, yet again. The downward trajectory of Google's utility has only been worsening over the past 10 years-- but only in the last 3-4 have mainstream audiences started to notice.
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vgeek · 3 months ago
This seems to be an ecumenical matter.
vgeek commented on Ask HN: How did Alphabet crush earnings while so many others are cutting costs?    · Posted by u/givemeethekeys
vgeek · 4 months ago
Haven't there been numerous recent leaks detailing how Google has let revenue team take over from the search quality team over the past few years? [1] They can adjust auction parameters for owned properties to juice CPCs, blend ads to drive CTR and disable functionality of ad-blockers in tranches to squeeze as much growth as needed. Search quality has seemed awful for quite some time [2], but all that really matters is growth for ad ePM-- driven by CTR and CPC. The leaked documents from last year also had comments about correlations between lower search quality and higher ad click rates, so there is that, too.

Youtube also increases ad load. More ads per video, combined with organic growth, higher engagement and wider distribution (smart TVs probably have insane metrics-- plus no real ad blockers there, either) mean they'll keep having display/video ads doing extremely well, too.

[1] https://www.techspot.com/news/102765-who-prabhakar-raghavan-... [2] https://methodshop.com/why-google-search-sucks/

vgeek commented on I asked police to send me their public surveillance footage of my car   cardinalnews.org/2025/03/... · Posted by u/bookofjoe
vgeek · 5 months ago
Flock (YC17)

They are growing and showing up everywhere, but you never hear about them in terms of real innovation, just helping build the surveillance state. Combine this with cloud based doorbell cameras and it seems like someone is always watching.

vgeek commented on Chasing RFI Waves – Part Seven   raoulpop.com/2012/04/15/c... · Posted by u/walrus01
vgeek · 6 months ago
This is definitely a neat place to visit. No digital cameras are allowed past a specific point, even. I have snapshots from walking the main loop with my dog from a few years back posted here:

https://vgeek.net/gallery/index.php/category/103-green_bank_...

vgeek commented on US authorities can see more than ever, with Big Tech as their eyes   proton.me/blog/big-tech-d... · Posted by u/jethronethro
enahs-sf · 6 months ago
My personal favorite is 281-330-8004.
vgeek · 6 months ago
Who?

u/vgeek

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